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tanemera

Traffic Hazard
« on: January 30, 2008 »
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  • A few months ago, I posted my comments on the ridiculously confusing signage at the end of C. Tabaiba/C. Palmera. Dolly Driver kindly offered to take the matter up with Steve, but nothing has changed. Over the past few days we have had two tour buses in addition to the normal ten to twenty cars per hour (at peak time) down C. Palmera, all "lost".  There have been at least two recent accidents at the junction of C. Tabaiba/C. Palmera with the main road into LG, probably as a result of visitors "dithering" on the corner, reverisng out onto he main road, or turning at the end of C. Tabaiba/C. Palmera and then heading back up the main one-way road in the wrong direction.  There is going to be a fatal accident sooner or later at this junction.  As I previously reported, I have sent two letter to the Council asking for action.  These were translated and vetted by Paul Ruane's office, so they would have been understandable by the recipient.  I received no acknowledgement to either.  What do I have to do to help prevent a tragedy and to reduce the completely unnecessary trafic down C. Tabaiba and C. Palmera, not to mention the frustration to visitors trying to find the centre of town/harbour/beach?  I am quite prepared to meet with Steve and/or other interested parties and to visit the junction to point out the dangers and to let them see for themselves the magnitude of the problem.  Surely the Council are leaving themselves in a very vulnerable position, in the event of a fatality, when they choose to ignore the observations of their tax payers?  My e-mail address is available on this site should anyone else feel strongly enough that something has to be done and wishes to contact me directly.

    Offline Dolly Diver

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    Re: Traffic Hazard
    « Reply #1 on: January 31, 2008 »
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  • I did have a word with Steve and he said he would pass the information on.  However you know the old saying about leading a horse to water!!! 

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    « Reply #2 on: January 31, 2008 »
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  • Juan,what council. More happened on the Marie Celeste.

    tanemera

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    « Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008 »
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  • Thanks Dolly and Edward.  Your responses confirm my suspicions.  I can't think of anything else I can do.

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    « Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008 »
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  • I have Steve Gerald's  private e mail if that would help.  PM me if you need it.

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    « Reply #5 on: January 31, 2008 »
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  • ps. A word with the Tenerife Sun might also prove beneficial

    alex

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    « Reply #6 on: February 01, 2008 »
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  • hi
    might be speaking out of turn, since im not a resident. BUT why do you not get off your arse and go and see him your self.
    His office hours are on this board, That is what i would do here in the UK, not  write on forums or tell my friend to tell him or write to the local rag.
    Off my chest now
    good luck

    ghod

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    « Reply #7 on: February 01, 2008 »
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  • Alex is right go and see steve in his office. People like you juan are sad old people who just like moaning to each other .  I dont see what your problem is anyway the only problem i can see is tourists who take there brain out at the airport and forget how to drive.

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    « Reply #8 on: February 01, 2008 »
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  • Juan even if you go and see Steve nothing will happen as it all boils down to Snr Gorrin. As a matter of interest does he still live in the county ?
    The same with all things here the wheels move very,very slowly.

    june bleith

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    « Reply #9 on: February 01, 2008 »
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  • well i must say i have know steve now for quite a number of years & have frequented his establishment on a number of occasions,where i must say in the past  have had such a laugh.
    until recently that is!!
    whenever steve comes to sit with us as he does or has done on a regular basis i can't help but wonder at these abnoxious people who want to discuss council matters at his place of work!!!
    i have seen this on countless occasions.
    you know where his office is you know what times he's there so please go bother him there, it's rude.
    i also have first hand knowledge of all the good things Steve has done,just ask the church, the San Fran animals & there is a small matter  of the work he does with people less fortunate.
    so yes i do agree that there should be better signposts but go to Steve at his office in the time allocated,please don't interfere with his business the chicken shack & take away from the happy atmosphere that he has taken time over to create.

    Offline Dolly Diver

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    « Reply #10 on: February 01, 2008 »
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  • He is also very quick to make sure I get all the important information to pass on to you all.  He will even make the time to call into our office with local information for the "What's on locally" board - and for a delicious quick meal, when I have had to work late on this web site, his chicken and chips are wonderful.

    ghod

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    « Reply #11 on: February 01, 2008 »
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  • Why dont we build a bypass juan

    tanemera

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    « Reply #12 on: February 04, 2008 »
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  • Alex is right go and see steve in his office. People like you juan are sad old people who just like moaning to each other .  I dont see what your problem is anyway the only problem i can see is tourists who take there brain out at the airport and forget how to drive.

    Wow! who rattled your cage, Ghod? My posting was intended to discover if anyone else shared my concerns. I am certainly not a "sad old man", although you may well be.  I care about what goes on around me here in LG and I actually have some sympathy with the "brainless" tourists, as well as the Canarian bus drivers and taxi drivers, all of whom regularly  drive up C. Tabaiba and C. Palmera trying to find the centre of town or harbour, as a result of the confusing signs.  You might like to take the time to stand at the junction and see for yourself what goes on before you make personal attacks on someone who does not want to see dead bodies under blankets at the end of the street.  Alex may also like to know that Steve has previously been contacted on the subject (with no apparent effect) and that I have the details for his office hours and fully intend to "get off my arse" to visit him.  I had hoped for some other constructive inputs to reinforce my case.  Thankfully there are some intelligent contributors to the forum.

    Falstaff

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    « Reply #13 on: February 05, 2008 »
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  • When public spirited citizens raise concerns about safety issues they deserve to be heard and their views respected. Sadly, any criticism whatsoever of Council services is now taken by a small number of people as an unwarranted  personal attack on their good friend Councillor McKenna and they reciprocate with silly derogatory personal comments which have nothing to do with the serious issues which have been raised.

    I am sure that Councillor McKenna has nothing to do with this simply because he will   be associated with those silly comments and it will reflect  badly on him.

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    « Reply #14 on: February 05, 2008 »
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  • Well said Falstaff

    tanemera

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    « Reply #15 on: February 05, 2008 »
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  • Thanks for the support Falstaff and Edward.  I am sure Steve will share my concerns when I explain the situation to him (certainly NOT at Chicken Shack - I would never condone abusing his time at his personal business place).  Incidentally, I am not alone in this and personally know of six people who share my concerns and are prepared to support my cause.  I will let you know how this progresses. 

    poolepirate

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    « Reply #16 on: February 14, 2008 »
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  • I have read this thread a couple of times and feel that it is time to add my two pennies worth by asking Juan what part of the sign pointing down the hill on that corner marked 'Centro' does he not understand and feels is misleading? It is plain to me and my family and thousands of motorists who do get it right.

    There are many more things that could be done in the village before dealing with points such as this which is an non-item.

    ghod

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    « Reply #17 on: February 15, 2008 »
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  • Well said pirate its a bad corner plain and simple just like juan ( simple ) why dont we re-build that part of the village to make it easy to go round a CORNER

    tanemera

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    « Reply #18 on: February 21, 2008 »
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  • Pool Pirate, if you drive down towards LG via A. Maritimo (from Colonial Park) you will see a sign on the corner of C Tabaiba.  The top (green) sign is an arrow and says "C Tabaiba".  Immediately below this is a further (white) sign saying "Centro", etc.  Anyone new to the area will naturally assume that "Centro" is along C Tabaiba.  So they drive down C Tabaiba, turn back and then try C Palmera.

    I don't think this is any fault of the 25 or so drivers who do this every day, including coach drivers.  The danger arises from the dithering at the end of these streets when fast moving taxis and Titsa buses are approaching down A Maritimo.  Also from the few who turn left out of C Palmera and up A Maritimo, trying to find there way back to where confusion first set in (i.e. Colonial Park).

    This isn't my imagination and my views are shared by many local residents.   We have all frequently been asked for directions to the town centre, harbour and cliffs on many, many occasions by tourists (and coach drivers) confused by the lack of clear signs at the junction. There have been at least two recent accidents and no doubt numerous "near misses".  Apart from the potential for a fatal accident there is the inconvenience to tourists and residents alike to consider.  Many of us have tried to get something done about the situation, including having signs made and posted at the end of the street.  These were (understandably) removed by the Council but the fact that this was tried indicates the level of concern that exists locally and our frustartion at being unable to get anything done about it.  I intend to approach Councillor Steve again but don't expect to achieve anything.  I raised the subject on this forum to see what level of support there might be.  Clearly not a lot!

    poolepirate

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    « Reply #19 on: February 21, 2008 »
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  • Oh Juan! What are we to do with you.

    I too am a resident living very close to the bend and have seen nobody taking a wrong turning. As I sated previously the 'CENTRO' sign points down the hill and is obvious to all.

    I do not want to fall out with you over this but I really cannot understand your problem. I  suggest the problem does lie with you and not the signage.

    tanemera

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    « Reply #20 on: February 21, 2008 »
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  • I just checked again, the "Centro" sign has no arrow on it but is located immediately below the C Tabaiba sign which does have an arrow - pointing up C Tabaiba!  Drive down A Maritima and it's the first signpost you see.  I invite you to stand at the A Maratima end of C Palmera/C Tabaiba between 11.00 and 11.30 a.m. on the next sunny day and watch the cars dithering.  You can easily identify the ones who are lost - the passenger will have a map open on their knee.  Regardless of how you nterpret the signs, the fact is that drivers are getting confused at a dangerous junction so the problem is not just in my mind, or that of the many others who share my concern. 

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    « Reply #21 on: February 21, 2008 »
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  • The confusion starts at the junction to the  Royal Sun. You have to remember that we are used to the road. Many tourists of all nationalities are here for the first time and some of them are still bothered about  driving on the " wrong side".

    tanemera

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    « Reply #22 on: February 24, 2008 »
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  • Don't get the idea that I sit by the roadside with a clipboard, but on Saturday the sun was out, I happened to be washing my car and 10 cars made the C Palmera detour in 30 minutes.  This was around noon.  Today (Sunday) I counted 4 in ten minutes while catching up on my newspaper reading on the terrace, again around noon.  It doesn't bother me but it must be annoying for the tourists and there is the potential danger of another accident at the junction.  Hopefully I will get a chance to speak to Councilor McKenna in the next week.