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Both Sides of the story
« on: February 27, 2007 »
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  • ldblquote The Mayor is in possession of photos of local police officers having sex on duty and in uniform and has done nothingdblquote  say SIPA (policemen's union)

    translated from http://www.canarias24horas.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23902&Itemid=1

    In the photographs given to the Mayor one can make out uniformed police officers having sex on duty inside various cars

    The SIPC, which is the Sindicato Independiente de Polic'edas de Canarias. (Independant union of Policepersons in the Canaries, says that they are ldblquote fed up with the free-for-all situation that exists within the Stgo del Teide Local Police Force


    Canarias 24 horas dot com  reported this piece after several conversations with the heads of this union, in which they revealed that, amongst other things, the Mayor of this municipality, Juan Dami'e1n Gorr'edn Ramos, has in his possession photographs, handed to him by the heads of the union, in which one can see certain officers of the Stgo del Teide local police, inside cars and locales having sex with different partners.

    These events took place, according to the SIPC, when the officers were on duty and furthermore wearing their uniforms and badges of office They insist that this matter affects officers who are ldblquote protecteddblquote  by the chief of police of the southern municipality - Juan Agust'edn Mart'edn Trujillo

    In the photos handed to they Mayor, copies of which they jealously guard, one can see what is apparently the interior of various cars, where, after staying a while with their ldblquote contactsdblquote  these offiers subsequently have sexual relations with various women

    In the photos the SIPC say one can clearly see the faces of the officers that are  ldblquote protecteddblquote  by Juan Agust'edn Mart'edn Trujillo. And the union members can confirm that the ladies who appear in these pictures are not the officersquote  wives!

    "This is the straw which will break the camels back," they complain, "because while ldblquote theydblquote  open disciplinary proceedings at the drop of a hat for an officer who is late on duty, these ldblquote chosen onesdblquote  get away with bloody murder without even a reprimand! "

    A story that goes back to 1995
    In 1995 almost all the officers in Santiago del Teide signed a petition to inform the Mayor that they could not work with and did not want the chief of police Finally after dozens of protests by the officers, the chief had to relinquish his command and take a lower rank, according to the version told by the union executive

    Months later, he tried to recover his position as chief, which the Mayor refused to allow But finally the chief won a complaint against the local council, forcing them to reinstate him at the end of 2005. The return of the chief prompted 4 officers to request transfers to other municipalities

    Santiago del Teide has a force of 18 police officers to cover just over 52 sq kilometres and a population of 11,379 inhabitants

    A driving licence isnquote t a licence to drive!

    Another one of the complaints made by the SIPC against the local police chief of Santiago del Teide is that he lacks the appropriate special licence required to drive Police Vehicles (BTP) and appears, they say,  to carry on driving the special vehicles even though he doesnt have the correct licence
    They have received a report from the Jefatura Provincial de Tr'e1fico which clearly states that he may not drive these type of vehicles, because he doesnquote t have the correct licence, and they donquote t care "how high up he is", adds the union representative.

    They also told us (Canarias24horas.com) that these officers, there are apparently 4 of them, have managed to infect the IT systems of the police force by going into inappropriate web pages, and still no one has officially opened an enquiry ldblquote  it is not difficult to work out who was on shift at the time, and therefore who did itdblquote  they say.

    Question of Politics

    The heads of the SIPC donquote t understand how there is a sergeantquote s position that is left vacant and how the Mayor deals with the chief in a friendly fashion and in their opinion always turns a blind eye to th goings on.
    The proximity of the forthcoming elections, they argue, has made the cheif ldblquote fireproofdblquote  ldblquote Things are very clear, Juan Agust'edn Mart'edn Trujillo, has got plenty of family members in the municipality and they are all voters!!! " Add the SIPC
    And in Rebbutal

    The Stgo del Teide council are to make a complaint against the SIPC
    Juan Dami'e1n Gorr'edn Ramos Mayor of Santiago del Teide denies ever having received any photos showing local police officers having sexual relations in various cars whilst on duty and in uniform and repudiates the allegations made by the SIPC. He says the corporation has put the matter into the hands of their lawyer and they will be bringing an official complaint against the SIPC

    The mayor informed Canarias 24 horas dot com that he had not received any such photographs from the SIPC

    "I do not have the pleasure of knowing this particular union nor anyone who may be in charge of it  If they do have these photographs, well then let them show them and put the matter in writing", said Gorr'edn

    He said that certain police officers had contacted the local council as they were concerned at the information appearing in this (canarias 24h.com) medium of communication, calling it a complete ldblquote nonsensical actdblquote  on the part of the Union

    He emphasised that  a political motive was behind all of this due to the proximity of the coming elections which are to take place in May. It was done, he said, in the hopes of bringing down the prestige of the Corporation and of the Local Police
    We do not know why they are saying these horrible things said the Mayor

    He also said that of the 17 strong force 14 have no problems at all
    "What is actually happening is that the minority are trying to force their will on the majority Luis Puyol wants to be chief of police and that is what will happen" said Gorrin, insinuating that this could be another motive for the union bringing this matter into the glare of media attention

    "With regard to the serving chief of the local police Juan Agust'edn Mart'edn Trujillo, he does not possess the special licence required to drive Police vehicles  (BTP) and yes he does drive them without it, but he got to his position in the 1980s when this qualification did not even exist, and maintains the Mayor "he may drive them as long as they are not involved in a situation which requires the use of siren and flashing lights" He is as we speak attending the Academy to obtain his special licence, said the Mayor

    So the Mayor effectively confirmed at least one of the SIPC complaints and assured that an official enquiry into the matter had been opened and that would determine if there were any disciplinary action to be taken, but it was necessary to take into account that ldblquote that was how things are with police vehiclesdblquote  he said


    Falstaff

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    « Reply #1 on: February 27, 2007 »
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  • There could be an innocent explanation.

    Maybe the policemen  were taking part in an "on the job" training exercise?

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    Re: Both Sides of the story
    « Reply #2 on: February 27, 2007 »
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  • show me the photo's i need more proof !!!
    EVERYDAY WHEN I WAKE UP, I THANK THE LORD I'M WELSH

    Falstaff

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  • On a more serious note, I wonder what political affiliations the SIPA union has. I would guess there is a political motive behind their attack on the Mayor.

    Reading between the lines, the offending policemen are not members of the SIPA union, so there could be two motives for SIPA to misrepresent the facts.

    Perhaps the policemen have behaved in the manner described, but I would like to see the factual evidence  that the Mayor had knowledge of the issue prior to it being raised by SIPA in the press.

    If there is no supporting evidence then the story lacks credibility, particularly as the motive suggested for the Mayorquote s failure to act  (the Chief of Policequote s ability  to rally the electoral support of his relatives against the Mayor to  swing the election) appears absurd.

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  • Could it be said that, as for as the police are concerned,  they had it in for the ladies in question

    Falstaff

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    « Reply #5 on: February 27, 2007 »
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  • Edward, please, this is a serious political debate. If the allegations about the police are true then the offenders may have to be replaced. Here are two big cocks which appear to be very suitable candidates.



    Sorry Gigi.
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    No worries Falstaff I just hope people actually look at the Vid so they realise my high standards havn't slipped LOL
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    pedro

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    « Reply #6 on: February 28, 2007 »
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  • only  one  question here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    why  has  this  story  not  been on the  TV  or in other news-papers.  It  seems  to  be  only  the  web site  you  got  your  info  from.  Very   weird,  do  you  not  think????????????
    I  smell  something  wrong  here 8)

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    pedro

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  • AH
    I  hope  gigi  will  translate  this!!!!!!!!!!!!
    http://www.canarias24horas.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24063&Itemid=1
    This  will  explain  a  lot ;D

    gigi

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  • Glad to oblige Pedro
    The Opposition party in Santiago del Teide blames the Mayor for the police ldblquote  sex on dutydblquote  scandal  

     
    translated from Canarias24h.com
    27/02/2007 - 20:27
    ldblquote Lack of ground rulesdblquote , ldblquote lack of coordinationdblquote  and ldblquote incompetencedblquote  are some of the descriptions that the opposition has used to describe the conduct of the Mayor, The council department responsible for policing and the Chief of the Santiago de Teide local Police


    Santiago del Teide/   The PP, PSOE and CCN  all agree that the controversy that has arisen in  Santiago del Teide over the alledged photographs of local police officers having sex on duty is the fault of the Mayor, Juan Dami'e1n Gorr'edn Ramos, for defending the Chief of the local police Juan Agust'edn Mart'edn Trujillo, and also due to the fact that he has not taken a stand on Police matters for some time, which has meant that there has been little coordination within the local police force.

    Chief of the local Police Juan Agust'edn Mart'edn Trujillo Photo from TV Canarias
     
    Antonio S'e1nchez Centro Canario candidate for the Mayorship, assured that he does not have proof the Mayor actually has the photographs in his possession, but categorically reputes Gorr'edn'b4s accusation that the CCN is behind the allegations and is fanning the flames of the scandal for political reasons in order to damage the image of the governing group in the face of the forthcoming elections ldblquote We have made no comment on the authenticity of the matter and we do not know why he is saying that we havedblquote  said Sanchez

    The centrist  said when he found out about the report by way of Canarias24horas.com that he believed ldblquote  it was an internal problem to be sorted out by the office of the Mayordblquote  He emphasised that he sensed ldblquote  a bad smelldblquote  in the municipality because of this controversy that can only be detrimental to the image of Santiago del Teide

    The  PP candidate, Oliver Socas, considered the matter ldblquote seriousdblquote  if in fact the Mayor did have such photographs in his possesion as have alledged the Sindicato Independiente de Polic'edas de Canarias (SIPC - Police Union), leaving him ldblquote embarrasseddblquote  that the council head had not taken up the matter some time ago.

    ldblquote The problem is there are no ground rules or leadership  in the local police force, like the CCN, Socas believes there are no political machinations behind the controversy, saying that ldblquote  When the Mayor gets backed into corner on a topic which affects him directly -  he is in the habit of using the idea of opposition party electioneering as an excuseldblquote  

    Socas believes that the problem could be solved by a restructuring of the police force, because at the moment there is gossip all over the municipality and ldblquote people are talking and want to know who could possibly be in the photographsdblquote  

    The PP leader said ldblquote If the story of the photographs is true, there is going to be a political price to pay, some one must be held accountable and the chief of police must resigndblquote  

    The Socialist candidate was more outspoken in his condemnation - Innocencio Doble, who expressed himself surprised at the news that had broken via the medium of the Canarias24H website,  damaging in this way the image of the local council, the police corps and the municipality

    Doble reminded that in 2005 the councillor responsible for Police matters had resigned due to ldblquote the  lack of coordinationdblquote  within the force and the constant robberies that were occurring in the municipality he also emphasised that the current Chief of Police  did have a disagreement with the Ayuntamiento and was relieved of his duties, but after winning a tribunal case was reinstated once again

    Regarding the matter of the photographs, the socialist attacked the council department responsible for police matters, which in his opinion, ldblquote doesnquote t say anything and doesnquote t actually exist! " and saying that "the Mayor is the one who has taken over charge of the department"

    ldblquote Everything that has happened is the direct responsibility of the Mayordblquote  said Doble,  reiterating that there was no political motivation behind any of this, saving perhaps the ldblquote incompetencedblquote  of Gorr'edn ldblquote If he had opened an official inquiry into the matter instead of jumping to the defence of the Police Chief, he would have better served the police corps and the municipality, said Doble

    Even though it was hard for Doble to believe that the photographs did not exist, he called for a bit of ldblquote sanity and serious thoughtdblquote  on the part of the Mayor so that he might see the sense of opening an official inquiry into the matter ldblquote If there has been an irregularity and it is revealed that it was covered up by a public employee, this would be classed as prevarication and would be a crime, emphasised Doble, alluding to the possible culpability of the Mayor

    Our position is that this is an event that no one likes or wanted because it will considerably damage the image of the municipality and the Local Police Corps and will result in a total lack of respect for them in the street from now on
    « Last Edit: February 28, 2007 by GiGi »

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  • Well done GiGi. Come up with the goods again.

    NikkiGQ

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  •  Yes well done to Gigi for that report.
    I  am actually related by marriage to two Policias local, and also a Sergent in the Guardia Civil. And Im afraid to admit that the Policia Local DO definately need a shake up in the Santaigo del Teide area. Its sad that its come to this stage, but it is a serious subject that someone up in the higher rankings should be taking a look at resolving.

    Falstaff

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    « Reply #11 on: April 18, 2007 »
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  • Education is a wonderful thing. Had it not been for intensive Spanish lessons over many years I would not have understood a word of this promotional video made by the mayor outlining the fringe benefits of working for the local police.

    Other members may need your help Pedro.



    Hygroscopio

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  • with the forthcoming elections, maybe the police were merely polling the electorate.
                     (apologies to Matt Groening.)