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Offline pilgrim

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« on: October 16, 2019 »
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Hope UK gets a deal that suits the parliament, without becoming a Colony of the EU. Everything is secret so far!  Fingers crossed it may happen. If so, I wish EU all the best, and look forward to great holidays, and still buying your currency and cars! But being to run our own foreign policy, supreme court, immigration etc...

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2019 »
Pilgrim, I liked it better when you were 'doing Gods work'...... at least then you were not coming out with such absolute drivel ........

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2019 »
Hope your little minded world doesn't crash to much when we eventually leave....

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2019 »
 frogeddy , what a nasty and bitter little individual you are ,,,may I suggest a new online moniker, one more in line with your character ,,,, from hence forth you should call yourself poison toad. Very apt I think.

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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2019 »
Don't worry - my fault. the old adage, no politics or religion! Should have stuck to that!

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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2019 »
 Sangriaman .... sad ..
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2019 »
Sangriaman you have done only 8 posts mainly insulting other members I suggest you pi55 into another pot and find another site that likes your kind of crap

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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2019 »
Sangriaman you have done only 8 posts mainly insulting other members I suggest you pi55 into another pot and find another site that likes your kind of crap
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Quite agree, he is a trouble causer, troll, time for him to be removed.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2019 »
 wow , what a little nest of Fish wives you are ,

Offline unhappy

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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2019 »
9th post crap again, try walking under a bus you imbecile.

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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2019 »
Where does leave me

Not  posted because always told off

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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2019 »
 Unhappy,, you really need to watch your blood pressure ??? At your time of life it can be dangerous. Learn to relax more

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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2019 »
This is supposed to be a friendly forum? Yet, so much hostility with the mention of Brexit. God what's it going to be like in Parliament tomorrow!
Have had a bottle of Moet in the fridge since March, may open it this weekend.

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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2019 »
Unfortunately your right pilgrim.. one or two small minded Bigots on this forum. They spoil it for all the normal people
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2019 »
Mark Carney, the chairman of BOE, now on side of Boris, for the Brexit deal. How the rats jump!
No shame for these people!
I feel sorry for all those labour constituents who voted to leave, but being ignored by their MP's.
Lessons in democracy maybe should be taught at Parliament. So many being ignored!
Used to a agree with social aspect of labour, miss Blair. Don't think Labour will return for a generation because of Corbyn! What a shame!!!!!!!     Shame on you labour (non) activists!

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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2019 »
Pot calling the kettle black comes to mind sangriaman.

Pilgrim as for Blair you are talking about that right wing socialist ( Conservative ) and hopefully the labour party will keep Corbyn their communist leader for ever, then they will never get into power again and waste money like they always do, remember their last comments after losing the last election there is no money left

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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2019 »
Sorry folks, but I see that there seems to be a little bit of the 'Little Englander' mentality creeping into proceedings here? You voted for it, so, you reap what you sow! Boris got a deal, but then of course what does he go and do only try to ram it through parliament without very little time for scrutiny? No wonder he lost the second vote in the way he did? If he had given more time for scrutiny it might have been passed without many problems, but of course if you behave like 'a bull in a china shop' then what do you expect!

And then you had those clowns in the DUP trying to maintain the argument that if Northern Ireland remained within the customs union it would set the seeds for there being talks of there being a United Ireland? What it would actually mean is that Northern Ireland would have the best of both worlds by they actually 'having their cake and eating it' by the fact of they having an all Ireland economy. No customs posts! No physical border! Just a little 'bump' in the road when you'd cross the border along with speed limit signage in km/per hour instead of miles per hour and no more talk of the 'Troubles' rearing it's ugly head again??
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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2019 »
From what my memory remembers the only reason Mrs May did not get a deal in parliament was the BACK STOP which the EU said they would never change

Boris then went back to the EU and got that dropped the rest of Mrs May deal remained the same, so why should parliament need extra time to discuss what they had wasted years agreeing to except but for the BACK STOP.

The reason ?, the opposition had their own agendas and were never interested a deal the Conservative obtained, and could not care what the less what the electorate voted for 

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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2019 »
Unhappy, I agree with you. Am now happy for a united Ireland, something the EU has not been denying!
Let the EU and NI run Eire. I would worry about the future GDP for the new Ireland. But in the communist EU what's money anyway!
Also now very happy for Scotland to go independent. Please, please have a referendum and go solo, you won't regret it, well not for the first year anyway.

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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2019 »
Sorry, Pilgrim, you seem to be putting the cart before the horse in your referral to letting the EU and NI run Eire?? How can NI run Eire in any way?? NI can't even run itself without the annual subvention given to it by the Westminster Parliament?? Eire or the Republic of Ireland to give my country its proper name is a separate country with it's own government which it has been running since January 1922 when it became known as the Irish Free State. The Republic of Ireland has been in existence since April 1949.

Just to let you know that the subject of there ever being a United Ireland is a topic for the electorates of both NI and the ROI to decide by referendums being held in both jurisdictions! Nowhere else! You might be surprised by the results you might get in both jurisdictions, mind you though?

The talk of there being a border poll at all only came up if there had been a no-deal or crash out Brexit??

I'm not worried about the future GDP of the ROI as our GDP is growing by at least 5 to 6% per annum at present even though we are still going to be members of the EU once the UK leaves, (if it ever leaves, that is?)

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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2019 »
Yes, ROI has had a great GDP growth in recent years. And the average salary is above the UK at 38k Euros.
While here in UK is 29 K sterling. So with current currency adjustment, ROI is 2000 approx.  better off per annum. The GDP growth in your last quarter was 0.6, so not fantastic. Anyways the average wage in Ireland is misleading due to the shell companies who choose to register their business there for the nice tax reasons! These companies salary's of the directors are included in the calculations, so not really truly the indigenous! Also through some strange accounting, the Eire treasury, have recalculated the assets under there control, and added as to the GDP?
Any way it all stinks!
My view, we had a road trip over 7 days, starting in Northern Ireland, then driving into Donegal, visiting family and down thru Sligo to Galway. And then back through NI to Ferry back to Scotland and home.

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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2019 »
And further to previous!
I can only speak as I find. People both sides of the border were fantastic! The houses and gardens were nicer and better maintained in the North than the South. As were the cemeteries! I have family in both.
I concluded that the North is Richer. And looking at property prices in the ROI they are still 30 - 40% less than before the crash nearly 12 years ago.
I think you as a nation are being conned, by your government and the EU. They have promised you lots, but cannot support this.
Your only future is with an independent UK, which you have slighted, I hope our memories are not as long as yours.   Anyways - your the greatest people in the world. But you just cant run any thing!!!!!

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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2019 »
NI was a whole lot richer than the Irish Free State/Republic of Ireland owing to the ship building and textile industries for a long time, but since ROI joined the EEC/EU back in 1973 that has long since reversed owing to Multinational tech and pharmaceutical companies setting up manufacturing plants here over the last 35 to 40 years and yes we did have a number of recessions during that time plus the world wide crash of 2008/2009, but all the damage suffered during that crash has now been reversed and the ROI has recovered and is now considered to be back at full employment again.

Our future is with the EU not with an independent UK as you've mentioned. Will there even be a UK in a few years time? Who's to know??

As for we running things by ourselves, well, for a long time we did struggle, but now I'd say we have things well under control and we are aiming to continue to do that. Property prices are outrageous in Dublin and the surrounding areas, but as for the rest of the country it's affordable to the majority of citizens. You just have to remember that Dublin is not Ireland? It's only our capital city and as you well know capital cities all over the world tend to be a whole lot more expensive than other cities in any of the other countries of the world.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2020 »
Just looking at this old blog, where Frogeddy is rude and needs to apologise, please read this short blog from the start! Such drivel, get over it!!  Grow up and accept that things are not always what you want, but others who may be more in majority than you, may want something different!!
Shame on you !!!!