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Offline Georgie

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« Reply #630 on: January 06, 2021 »
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Does anyone fancy having a go at me and how do we keep morale up

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« Reply #631 on: January 07, 2021 »
How do we keep moral up???   That is a very good question.  The only glimmer of hope is the success of the vaccine which is going to take a few months to kick in so restrictions can be eased.  Christmas is over, we now have storm Filamina over us.  Boats are unable to go out as the sea is too rough and the bars are only allowed to serve drinks and meals on terrnces and as it is raining heavily the majority have closed until the weather settles.  Lets hope that in the next announcement of restrictions things will improve.  At least we are not in lockdown.

So yes, moral is very down.  It's quite clear that we will have no Brittish tourism here for another few months, but lets keep possitive and prepare for better times.  My apartment is Spring cleaned, the dive centre had a good spruce up and our boat is sparkling.  We are ready for the people who have been cooped up in confinement for months and are in desperate need of a holiday.

Keep positive, take care and stay safe.

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« Reply #632 on: January 10, 2021 »
How is everyone
A bit quiet on here is everyone safe

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« Reply #633 on: January 10, 2021 »
We are still in Tenerife, weather has not been great but is improving. Can't meet anybody from tomorrow except in a restaurant. Today we went walking in a forest with some friends but can't tomorrow but we could eat with them in a restaurant. Bonkers!

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« Reply #634 on: January 11, 2021 »
Nophead enjoy your time

I wish I was there and hopefully see you soon

Offline Georgie

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« Reply #635 on: January 14, 2021 »
On the news tonight it is saying that tui have had their largest surge in 2 week bookings for ages amongst those over 50 who allegedly have had the virus injected xx


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« Reply #636 on: January 14, 2021 »
Utter rubbish, the over 80s have not had their vaccines yet, we are in the over 70s & we will be lucky to get ours before the end of next month, sounds like a sales pitch from Tui

The government organization is total rubbish, due to circumstances we were advised to get a covid test on the 31/12/20 which we did at our local hospital, we were informed the result should take normally 24 hours but because of the holiday it might take 72 hours.

The registration form said if we had not heard from them in 5 days to call them which we did, we were informed our tests had been registered & we should have had the results, we did eventually, another 4 days later, in total 9 DAYS after we had the tests, no wonder we have the worst figures in Europe

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« Reply #637 on: January 14, 2021 »
On the news tonight it is saying that tui have had their largest surge in 2 week bookings for ages amongst those over 50 who allegedly have had the virus injected xx

What it actually said was the surge was caused by people ANTICIPATING their injections and booking for the summer. Same is true of people booking coach trips for the summer anticipating they will have had their injections by then.

Letís give the UK one shout out please - we are the leading country in the world for genome sequencing, hence the discovery of the mutation that caused Spain to go into panic mode. These mutations are worldwide and will gradually emerge, but other countries donít have the quality of scientists to produce these results like the U.K. does.

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« Reply #638 on: January 14, 2021 »
Most of the people we know of that are over 80 have already had their first dose. Also a couple of my wife's friends in their 50's have had them because they work in schools or the NHS.

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« Reply #639 on: January 14, 2021 »
Angiebabes, that may be the case but this Government needs to learn about joined up writing, I am a true blue, but the way they have handled the pandemic, they could not organize a I am stupid up in a brewery with free beer.

Nophead, that is not the general public your are talking about, 50 year olds will be lucky if they get the vaccine before the summer

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« Reply #640 on: January 14, 2021 »
I wouldn't book any thing at the moment! A good friend with a reliable contact in the treasury, was told there will be restrictions of sorts till July. We are gonna wait till news of travel to Tenerife being back on, and then book soonest flight we can. Guess it will be a race to the keyboard!

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« Reply #641 on: January 16, 2021 »
Unhappy I can assure a labour government in Wales have done no better care homes are only now being risk assessed  for  vaccination to begin, GP practices are being given 50 page training documents to complete along side all other duties staff individually then have 15 page personal training to complete my local surgery has said this will take at least 3 weeks to complete only then can they start vaccinating.
 A family took a relative over 80 to a vaccination centre he has dementia and is blind because he could not fill out the forms they would not vaccinate him it took a 20 minute phone call with his surgery to sort this they refused to allow his relative to fill in his forms in all over an hour to complete beauracracy is alive and well in Wales.
 It is also in the news that vaccines are being thrown away even though staff in surgeries administering them but are not clinical ie receptionists etc could have had it but this was blocked by the local health board as they are not in the current target group.
 The Welsh goverment seem to be loving the control when this pandemic is over they will again become largely irrelevant I personally will be happy to see the end of dithering Mark Drakeford unfortunately we probably won't ever get rid of the labour government due to the devastation the torys caused in our industry and mines I can but hope.

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« Reply #642 on: January 16, 2021 »
I totally agree it is called the United Kingdom, I know Wales & Scotland want independence but along with NorthanIsland we have 4 small Countries all doing their own thing.

Each one of them has made decisions only to change their minds 24 hours later, if it was not so deadly it would be so laughable.

It is about time the British Parliament made single rules that every Country followed, if they don't no more money, see how Independence would go then ? but if they want to go, let them go.

The buck would then stop totally with the Conservatives,  who instead of certain leaders trying to gain brownie points who should be ashamed of themselves, we may get on top of this pandemic, but Boris needs to stop dithering and be a leader

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« Reply #643 on: January 16, 2021 »
I agree there has been no unity at all from the dissolved parts of the UK. I strongly feel now that they should all be allowed the referendums they a desire, and should they vote to leave good luck to them. Also I would decrease the support to them over a ten year period, so they can gradually adjust to being independent and a self financing sovereign state. Basically give them there wish, the same that we had with Brexit. Then there cannot be any argument!! And you know what, we would all get on surprisingly well.  Please bring it on!

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« Reply #644 on: January 16, 2021 »
Well Scotland would rejoin the EU, if they will have them, so there would be a another hard border and they wouldn't be able to use the pound, so they would be on Euros but they would be able to use their holiday homes in Tenerife for six month instead of three.

Yorkshire might as well be independent as it is about the same population as Scotland and a lot more than Wales.

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« Reply #645 on: January 17, 2021 »
So what you are saying, as long as you can have your six months holiday, It does not matter how the UK is made up.

It sounds like your appraisal of Covid, let all the old buggers die, they are going to die anyway, tell that to the 50000 that are catching it & the 1500 dying every day at the moment & a lot of them are young people, who thought they could not catch it.

With your logic London should be Independent it contributes most of the wealth in the UK, supporting uneconomical areas like Yorkshire, if you did make Yorkshire Independent, you could then go back to using the groat as currency, I wonder how long Independence would last

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« Reply #646 on: January 17, 2021 »
If you look here the number of young people that die with covid is minute: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England. It is mainly the over 90's that die and at any age you are far more likely to die from something else than covid.


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« Reply #647 on: January 17, 2021 »
Tell that to the 100000 that have already died many of them way under 90 and all the young people who are in hospital telling everybody this is for REAL it is killing us as well.

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« Reply #648 on: January 17, 2021 »
Well most people die before 90 regardless. That is why the average age of people dying from covid is higher than the average lifetime.

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« Reply #649 on: January 17, 2021 »
There is a lot of averages, no much use when you are dead because of covid

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« Reply #650 on: January 17, 2021 »
Or dead from one of the much more likely things that kills us.

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« Reply #651 on: January 17, 2021 »
Save your breath Unhappy, anyone who plays down this virus, like him, is a complete moron. Notice he is happy to stay in a safer place LG, rather than take the risk in the UK !

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« Reply #652 on: January 17, 2021 »
Nophead, I know the sun is shining in Tenerife but this time of the year I did not know it was that strong enough to cause sunstroke.

As an uneducated person like myself, please list all the illnesses even in the past that cause people to be hospitalised every 30 seconds & dying of covid at this moment.

Just think if people do not take notice & come up with lame excuses like your's, it could be down to every 10 seconds by the time you are required to return home to the UK by EU law, then not matter how clever you think you are, you will be very worried, unless you are stupid, I think the jury are just about to cast their decision & it does not look very favorable.

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« Reply #653 on: January 17, 2021 »
The simple thought experiment is what if everybody catches it? About percent will die and the other 99% will go on to die from one of the other things that kill us.

Therefore, for any individual the chance of dying from it is way less than 1 in 100, tiny, and not worth worrying about unless you are a government, or work for the health service.

And every 30 seconds 70 people are being vaccinated, so by the time we get home the death rate should be much lower unless a new mutation means they have to start all over again.

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« Reply #654 on: January 17, 2021 »
For a pandemic that was more likely than a nuclear war, there seems to be absolutely no proper planning by any major country in the world. They all seem to have been totally blind sited. And often in a state of denial!
There is even debate about whom should be vaccinated first. Let's do NHS workers, carers, frontline transport workers. Then all key workers, then all shop staff, manual workers etc.. and all workers who cannot work from home. Then the elderly (over 80), then all ages with underlying health issues, then 70 year olds, 60's etc..  I think that would make an awful lot more sense! Basically there are a lot of people who do not leave home or institution and have no young family or job or mortgage to worry about, so they should be safe! Lets get the peoples who need to work and progress the economy get up and running.

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« Reply #655 on: January 17, 2021 »
Yes age alone is crude yardstick. If they get it they are more likely to clog up the hospitals and morgues, but if they live alone and don't go shopping there is very little chance of catching but if they live with their younger working age family with kids, every chance.

But if they vaccinate all the over 65s the deaths will drop to a small fraction and if they do all the over 45's become lost in the noise. Then it will just be the long covid problem until they vaccinate all the over 18's. I think that will take most of 2021, so another crap summer.

Shopping seems to be the main way people catch it these days. You meet many people indoors in shops. Much safer in a bar or restaurant with widely spaced tables, especially here where it is mainly outside and nowhere is busy.

From tomorrow we can eat or drink inside again but ironically the weather just got nice again, so no need.
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« Reply #656 on: January 18, 2021 »
You still don't get it, you keep banging on about age yes at first it was the elderly because of their situations they were the ones that caught the virus.

As for people getting the vaccine fine but that still does not stop you spreading the virus if you catch it, so your idea that people catching it will be a fraction, you must seriously put away you abacus & crystal ball.

The NHS along with many hospitals around the world are under great pressure because the virus has mutated into a more virulent strain and nobody has any idea when this could happen again, so your idea of vaccinating all the 65 & then the 18 year olds is just pie in the sky, that this pandemic will just disappear when that is done. At the moment it appears that it is the younger people the ones with your kind of attitude who are clogging up the hospitals

As for your thoughts that it is going to be a crap summer, don't be so selfish, we along with many others have had holidays cancelled, you on the other hand have been sunning yourself in Tenerife for months, sounds a bit like I am all right Jack sod you lot

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« Reply #657 on: January 18, 2021 »
I never said anything about people catching it being a fraction. I said if everybody catches it 99% of us will still die from something else, therefore it can't be consider a big danger to any individual. If you can't understand that simple logic you can't make sensible decisions about risk.

On the other hand I made some good decisions, which is why I am here in a low risk country with nice weather and you are not.

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« Reply #658 on: January 18, 2021 »
Red rag and bull comes to mind!

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On the other hand I made some good decisions, which is why I am here in a low risk country with nice weather and you are not.
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If the Brazil virus currently weaving its way through Cape Verde hits Tenerife maybe you wonít feel so smug Nophead?

Just please remember, all of us are trying the best we can to cope. Not one of us has ever lived through a pandemic like this before and no one has the answer, only the benefit of hindsight. Unqualified people claiming to be more knowledgable based on information published in the public domain,  in truth are reporting without specialist qualifications that are relevant to this disease.

Humility is a quality acquired by few.