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General Discussion / Re: Visitors arriving.
« Last post by pilgrim on October 10, 2020 »
I have no doubt that it is all TRUE! But was not aware of 35,000 arriving in 2006! That's why I wondered if
these figures were kept quiet, so as not to put of visitors or alarm the locals. Pretty sure they were kept quiet!!
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General Discussion / Re: Visitors arriving.
« Last post by nophead on October 10, 2020 »
Yes Janet Anscombe is reporting similar numbers and also referred to 2006, so it must be true as she has just been given an MBE by the queen.
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General Discussion / Re: Restrictions
« Last post by nophead on October 10, 2020 »
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But you say 70% don’t have symptoms, so how reliable is that??.?

They test them as well. If the are positive but don't have symptoms then they know how many have it without noticing. Presumably they also ask if they had symptoms in the past and compare that with antibody test result as well.

In other instances a whole factory might get tested if there is an outbreak and again they find lots of positives in people with no symptoms. Even in some care homes half of the most frail have tested positive with no symptoms. The same with health service workers and care home staff that get tested regularly.

It is a generally accepted fact internationally that only about 30% of people that test positive have symptoms.

The ONS test about 160,000 a week so that is only one in 412 of the population each week, so not many of us will come across someone that has been tested randomly. More likely to come across some with it at the moment as that is around 1 in 200. I have heard of someone knowing someone that has had a random test.

The ONS are professional statisticians so they state the level of uncertainty in all their results. Of course it won't be spot on but the sample size is very large and they do it every week, so it is a good measure of what is going on.

And it wasn't me that started referring to "old buggers". I only said it in reply to someones else's comment.

But when the average age of people that die with covid is higher than the average life expectancy, what does that say?
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General Discussion / Re: Restrictions
« Last post by pilgrim on October 10, 2020 »
Unhappy, you mention "all our friends".
Really!! do you pay them? or do they see you for the rudeness, maybe they derive some fun out of it!!
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General Discussion / Re: Restrictions
« Last post by angiebabes on October 10, 2020 »
The figures come from articles published by the BBC and the government.

The Office for National Statistics send out well over 100,000 tests to random people and ask them if they have symptoms. Then they work out how many test positive and with antibody tests also test how many have had it in the past. They publish the results every week on a Thursday.

ďAsk them if they have symptomsĒ

But you say 70% donít have symptoms, so how reliable is that??.?
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General Discussion / Visitors arriving.
« Last post by pilgrim on October 10, 2020 »
The BBC have said that over 1000 Africans have arrived in the Canaries in the last 48 hours.
Unfortunately they are not the sort of visitors who will be spending money!
The BBC go on to say that in 2006 over 35,000 people arrived by boats from West Africa. I do remember seeing some having landed on LG beach that year! But had no idea that 35,000 arrived.
I think that the authorities may have kept the number private, so as not to alarm people!
What do you think?
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General Discussion / Re: Restrictions
« Last post by unhappy on October 10, 2020 »
All I can say is my wife, myself and all our friends who happen to be in nopheads classification of old buggers that should be dead, do not know anybody who has caught Covid.

Perhaps we take our responsibility to safeguard ourselves and others more than he does, so get on with your sad life, with your graphs, saving money and telling everybody what to do, we will enjoy ourselves hopefully in Tenerife in a couple of weeks, and hopefully you will not be there.

Georgie work it out, its "random" if you are not thick you are stupid.
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General Discussion / Re: Restrictions
« Last post by Georgie on October 10, 2020 »
My wife and myself have not received these letters

But our sons have

Not sure what that means
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General Discussion / Re: Restrictions
« Last post by angiebabes on October 10, 2020 »
To date both here,up  north and in wales I havenít met anyone, not one single person who has received these tests, either for antibodies or anything else! Rather like checking you are quarantining, nothing happens to many people! Shambles!
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General Discussion / Re: Restrictions
« Last post by nophead on October 10, 2020 »
The figures come from articles published by the BBC and the government.

The Office for National Statistics send out well over 100,000 tests to random people and ask them if they have symptoms. Then they work out how many test positive and with antibody tests also test how many have had it in the past. They publish the results every week on a Thursday.




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