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Title: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on October 10, 2020
The BBC have said that over 1000 Africans have arrived in the Canaries in the last 48 hours.
Unfortunately they are not the sort of visitors who will be spending money!
The BBC go on to say that in 2006 over 35,000 people arrived by boats from West Africa. I do remember seeing some having landed on LG beach that year! But had no idea that 35,000 arrived.
I think that the authorities may have kept the number private, so as not to alarm people!
What do you think?
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on October 10, 2020
Yes Janet Anscombe is reporting similar numbers and also referred to 2006, so it must be true as she has just been given an MBE by the queen.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on October 10, 2020
I have no doubt that it is all TRUE! But was not aware of 35,000 arriving in 2006! That's why I wondered if
these figures were kept quiet, so as not to put of visitors or alarm the locals. Pretty sure they were kept quiet!!
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on October 10, 2020
If you google 'cayuco crisis' there are plenty of articles about it, so I don't know how secret it was. 6000 drowned as well apparently.

I don't remember hearing of it but I wasn't looking for news about the Canaries in 2006, we did Mallorca and Menorca that year and didn't get back the Canaries until 2015.

I wouldn't have known about it now if I hadn't read JA's blog. I don't think there is any mention of it in the British news. I expect it was in Spanish news though.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: will on October 11, 2020
Tuesday could be the end of British visitors for a while if the Spanish government announce that all arrivals from countries with a higher COVID rating than 50 in 100000 , must have a negative test confirmed in the 48 hours before flying.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on October 11, 2020
I saw that in the Sun but no see no mention of it on the BBC or from the UK government emails I get about changes in travel to Spain.. Where did you see it?
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on October 11, 2020
TV BBC teletxt, then in news. just checked it is no longer on there!! Rolling news stream (slowley).
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: will on October 11, 2020
CANARIANWEEKLY.com
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: Georgie on October 11, 2020
Sorry but is anyone actually arrived xx

Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: will on October 11, 2020
Donít know about arrivals , but September the 9th 1492 was the date Christopher Columbus left the Canaries.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: cs on October 12, 2020
Georgie - if you mean tourists then the answer is yes, we arrived at the beginning of October and although itís quiet itís not dead by any means, weíve eaten out most nights and everywhere weíve been have had steady business, last Saturday there were actually no tables available at the Green Corner. There are a number of places closed and some places arenít open every night they used to be but thereís still plenty of choice.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: unhappy on October 12, 2020
Still no news about our holiday next week from Tui, don't understand why, checked flight radar they are flying into Tenerife from some of the worst infected areas of Europe.

BA and Ryanair are flying into Tenerife so there must be an air corridor.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on October 12, 2020
I think an air corridor means you can travel without quarantine at either end. So there isn't one at the moment from UK to Tenerife because you have to quarantine on the way back.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: angiebabes on October 12, 2020
Am amazed that Ryanair cancelled our flight out for 20/10 just last week and today the refund was in my account!! I was anticipating four months at least from what Iíve read in fb etc., so am pleased with this result.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: Georgie on October 12, 2020
People I know are using British airways from Heathrow

Not sure if they fly to tenerife but they say prices are very good
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: angiebabes on October 12, 2020
People I know are using British airways from Heathrow

Not sure if they fly to tenerife but they say prices are very good

What information are you trying to impart Georgie?

We know British Airways fly planes out of Heathrow and that they fly to many destinations.

I donít live anywhere near Heathrow
 
I only want to fly to Tenerife

Prices to where and when are very good?

This kind of post generates such negative comment and I wonder why you posted it?
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: unhappy on October 12, 2020
angiebabes, some people in the UK think London is the only place on the planet, he can't help it, he is thick but he does have a degree.

Nophead please explain what you are saying, when flights are flying from around the UK into Tenerife or is London along with other airports that are special places that quarantine is not needed. I did not hear that from our PM today or before.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on October 12, 2020
There are currently no air bridges between Spain and the UK. You have to self isolate for two weeks when you return to the UK. Some people, like myself, could put up with that for a long stay but most working people or parents with kids in school can't afford to do that for short holidays, so flights numbers are well down.

That is why most airlines have stopped completely and Ryanair and Easyjet seem to be running reduced services. They don't need an airbridge to operate, they just don't have many customers while there isn't one.

There have been talks about setting one up to the Canaries with free covid tests at each end but that is not a thing yet, just a proposal. Perhaps Tui don't want to operate without that in place because they won't have enough customers to make it worthwhile but I am sure they could fly if they wanted to.

There are very few countries left on the list of places you can go without quarantine. Not sure if you would call those an air bridge or not.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on October 24, 2020
So we flew out on Friday morning with EasyJet. There are about 1 in 120 in the UK with covid at the moment and we came out of hot spot, so chances are there were several people with it on the plane. A girl on the row in front of us did have a bit of a cough!

As it is the most risky thing we have done since the pandemic we wore KN95 FFP3 face masks, which have a rubber seal to your face and a filter to breathe through. I.e. they are to protect you. And we also wore 3D printed full face visors to protect out eyes. So basically the same setup medics wear and we also snorted First Defence anti-viral nasal spray.

We looked out of place because everybody else on the plane had the usual blue surgical masks, which are to protect others or the black cloth ones which don't do much at all I think. KN95 masks are not very comfortable for a 4 hour flight but they are rated for 8 hours and only cost £6.99 each.

The plane was busy but not completely full. I think EasyJet arranged the seating so there was at least a one seat gap or the isle between strangers. I.e. you only sit next to your own party but you can be directly in front or behind strangers. They also seemed to have two blocks of about 3 empty rows splitting the plane into 3 sections. I assume these are firebreaks, so that if people have to isolate because someone tests positive it isn't the whole plane.

Most of the other passengers were young or middle aged. We were amongst the oldest. I think older people are giving it a miss and our apartment block is almost empty. Just a few permanent residents who are working age.

Had to take the masks off for three passport checks, which they obviously need to do, but not good from an infection control point of view. Also the finger scanner to exit passport control makes no sense because with only three of them a third of all the passengers arriving have touched them. There are plenty of alcohol gel dispensers though.

All the shops and cafes in Manchester airport were open. We went to Giraffe for breakfast and the food was fine but their covid IT was rubbish. We had to scan a giant QR code on entry for track and trace but my Android phone would not recognise it. They said it worked with Apple! I then tried to type in the weird URL they had but Google decided to search for it as it didn't look very URL like. I decided to walk away at that point but they then offered paper and pen.

At the table we scanned a QR that did work to order the food but when I tried to check out it came up with a "developer error", so we had to order from a waitress and pay contact less. The first credit card I tried got declined, so I had to use a second one. So really a 100% fail. In contrast we did this in Wetherspoons in August and it all worked perfectly. Their app could even take a picture of a credit card and read the data from it.

In LG a lot of places are shut but all the ones we rate seemed to be open but quiet on Saturday lunch time apart from Tipsy Terrace. I expect it will soon get busier.

A photo shop we use to print boarding passes at the top of the hill below the mirrador was closed with a message saying it was closed for medico on the 23rd. That looks ominous because we did notice the case count in Santiago del Teidi region go up by one! We can always use our phones but I never trust them to work, so prefer to take paper which never fails.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: unhappy on October 24, 2020
Of course that really helped when people went to the toilet, the prices rocketed over Friday night, they are already coming down today.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on October 24, 2020
Nophead, thank you that is a very helpful post! We are coming out now week after next, unless things and isolations change!
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on October 25, 2020
Had a look around Puerto de Santiago and the start of Playa Arena today (Sunday lunchtime).

Open:
   Capuccino Maria,
   La Pergola.
   Fishermans Inn.
   L'Italiano.
   Tapas e mas tapas.
   Neptuna.
   Am Eck.


Closed:
  Kiosco Da Yago - looks derelict.
  Casa Pedro (great tapas but they have turned their illuminated hording inside out, so it doesn't look promising and the tapas bar next door was also closed.
   Route 66 the outside tables looked dusty, so I don't think it has been open recently.

Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: Jinty on October 29, 2020
Hello everyone, can anyone tell me if the TUI hotel is open, the one next door to TJ's bar. We are due to arrive 10 Nov with TUI. Flights appear to be leaving from Glasgow from 3rd Nov. Thanks
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on October 30, 2020
It was closed last time I passed it a few days ago. There was a light on and one car that looked like there was a member of staff doing something inside.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on October 30, 2020
I did read somewhere that it was opening in November! But what date?
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on October 30, 2020
Unlike some tour operators, I don't think TUI would fly you to a closed hotel.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: Jinty on November 01, 2020
Thanks all for your answers. Now COVID PCR tests are applicable from 10Nov the day we were to fly. Impossible to get a private test at weekend to allow the 72 hrs before departure. Reluctantly we have changed to later on next year. Will the mess be sorted out by then, who knows! I also suspect the Los Gigantes Hotel is closed until 1st January 2021, as no bookings online until that date. TUI have told me the hotel is open, they dont know what they are doing they are such a mess. The COID test just put the tin lid on things  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on November 01, 2020
The test is mute now because the lockdown on Thursday prevents travel before it comes into effect.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: Jinty on November 01, 2020
The ban on travel is not applicable in Scotland as yet. So we would have needed the test. Who knows we might well follow all depends on wee Nicola.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on November 01, 2020
We are booked to fly out on November 5th for 3 weeks. From what I understand you are allowed to fly for business but not holiday, which I agree with. We have had building work done, which I need to see and also approve the next stage, which includes choosing tiles/finishes etc.. And I also need to pay workmen and other people like gardener, cleaner etc.. Over the years rightly or wrongly we have paid these people in cash, with Euros we have brought out or taken from the village bank. It seems the Tenerife way!
If I am able to change or purchase a new return flight so I am only there a week, and my wife will not come as I can do this business on my own. Do you think I will be operating within the latest lockdown directives!
Please, no long moral opinions.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: paulaf on November 01, 2020
Possibly, but depends if your flight is cancelled though as they might think Tenerife is a leisure route, also not sure yet how this will be checked or policed that you are travelling for business, the airline or is it done on trust? I'm booked to come out on 28th Nov but I presume it will get cancelled in due course as the loads will not make it economical to run either.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on November 01, 2020
I don't think they will cancel the flight, it is with Easyjet not a holiday charter flight. And interestingly when I booked they ask the question - is the flight for business or pleasure! I opted Business, whether this makes a difference I do not know!
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: paulaf on November 01, 2020
I agree flight only bookings stand more of a chance than package holidays, mine is BA flight only, is your flight still for sale? When did you book it out of interest, did they know about the "Business" thing then?
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: Georgie on November 01, 2020
I think if you have ticked business they think allegedly you have health insurance through your business

Just a guess
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: paulaf on November 01, 2020
BA have an option to select why you're travelling but its been there for years and i think its to tailor information they send to you.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: angiebabes on November 01, 2020
Sorry to be dense, but my understanding is that during this latest lockdown any international flights were forbidden unless you have proof you are flying genuinely for business and as such will bE questioned at point of departure?

Also, driving in a taxi, car or whatever form of transport, if you are stopped by police you wouldnít be allowed to travel to airport???

Am I missing the point here?
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: Georgie on November 01, 2020
I travel through out Europe for business and you need a letter and also a covid test which allegedly costs private 500 pounds
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on November 01, 2020
If Boris' dad can get a away with flying to Bulgaria to sort out his apartments I am sure you can.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: paulaf on November 01, 2020
They haven't yet said how the business only element will be enforced you might not need proof just done on trust.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on November 01, 2020
Angiebabies, I guess you reside in Los G, the lockdown here in UK was and not as enforced as in the Canaries. Even this evening when I popped down to the local CO-OP, for my cans of sleep treatment, there were two younger people in the shop without masks. This makes me very angry!! God only knows what it is like in the City's. We are very careful and turned 70 this year, so although we are lucky to be in reasonable good health so far, we are aware that we are vulnerable and take great precaution in keeping away and not passing the virus on. So I believe airports will be open for buisness travellers. And we will not be stopped when my wife drops me off!
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on November 01, 2020
Only about half the people in LG and Arena that we pass in the street wear masks actually over their face.  We just keep 2M distance, like at home, so not really bothered. I don't think we have seen anybody in shops not wearing one.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on November 01, 2020
Also this lockdown here is not like the early 3 month one. Builders are still working, and there is an awful lot of building going on around London and the Suburbs, also so many roads being dug up, closed down and temp traffic lights in place. I don't things will be much different after Thursday, unless you want to buy a new outfit to wear at the restaurant near your holiday home!
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: angiebabes on November 01, 2020
Pilgrim, we spent 50/50 Between UK and Tenerife and were in Tenerife  when they introduced strict lockdown, resulting in us being there over seven months. Whilst lockdown in Tenerife was stricter than in UK I wonder if the infection rate dropped as a result of the lockdown or by the fact that when lockdown was announced literally thousands of people rushed to airports and ferries to leave the island and head for home. Over a period of around ten days the population decreased drastically, towns and villages were like ghost towns and when restaurants etc opened again they were practically empty. When visiting Mercadona, it was strange to see more than half a dozen folk inside a large area with wide isles so distancing was easy - nothing like Tesco! True the rules were strongly enforced and police were high profile and stringent in upholding the law, but the lack of footfall must have helped enormously in lowering the spread I would have thought?

We are hoping to head back early December but clearly it isnít guaranteed, so will go with the flow and see what unfolds. Stay safe
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on November 01, 2020
Thankyou angiebabies, again strange times! Hope you get back okay, think you will. This virus is a really really bad flu, because we are having a type of lockdown! it will not be going away, it's still going to be here!
For ever, then it we all get used to it a little more, it may mutate to a weaker strain (more likely, maybe happened already) and part of life, could be 2022 till the scientists have been proved over cautious.
But they still get paid, as does every consultant on the subject. The IT people on the Track and Trace are on thousands a day, they love it!!!
Captain Cook took the common cold to parts of the undiscovered world, many died! They in return gave the sailors a sexual disease which was not in western Europe, many of them died.
Need to live with it, and people need to Isolate if they feel in danger!
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: linda on November 02, 2020
Waiting to see we been here for while but have friends in same boat work to be done taxes to pay.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on November 02, 2020
Is anyone booked with easyjet and booked to come out after the 5th November? I am due to fly that morning from Gatwick, so far have had no info from the Airline? The media say all flights are cancelled, but easyjet still showing flight! so no idea what is happening.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: angiebabes on November 02, 2020
Is anyone booked with easyjet and booked to come out after the 5th November? I am due to fly that morning from Gatwick, so far have had no info from the Airline? The media say all flights are cancelled, but easyjet still showing flight! so no idea what is happening.

And it may well go ahead without you as it could be carrying one way and also cargo. If it does fly then you wonít get a refund but can change your flight for a different date,
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on November 02, 2020
Thanks, if it is still flying I will try to go with it!! Easyjet so far with no information, pretty poor really!!
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: LucyW on November 02, 2020
Pilgrim, if you board the flight you are breaking the law. You are not traveling for legitimate business purposes.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on November 02, 2020
Hi Lucy, you need to read previous posts, am travelling for business.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: LucyW on November 03, 2020
I have read the posts and attending to an apartment refurb is not classified as business travel. The rules apply only to people who need to travel in the purpose of their employment. Just stick to the rules and keep everone safe.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: paulaf on November 03, 2020
There are many exemptions such as for care and protection, to fulfil legal requirements, attend a funeral etc etc.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on November 03, 2020
Hi Lucy W   My occupation is "Property Manager" It is my full time job, I am registered as, and pay tax as!
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on November 03, 2020
It's all immaterial now, flights been cancelled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: paulaf on November 03, 2020
If you really need to go for business book a BA connecting flight via Madrid going weekly on Saturdays I think, shouldn't get cancelled as it's a hub and heavy cargo route and then the 2nd leg is a domestic flight.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: pilgrim on November 03, 2020
paulaf thank you for info! Government are saying Lockdown only 4 Weeks (if you can believe them). So should be good to go in December!
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on November 03, 2020
Even Gove said it might be longer. I don't think a month of less strict lock down than first one will make enough difference, so I expect it to be longer. Perhaps a small gap for Christmas and then another for the third wave. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on November 06, 2020
A lot busier in LG this evening. Some people that managed to get out between the travel corridor opening and the lockdown plus some Scotts.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: paulaf on November 07, 2020
Good pleased to hear for the local businesses.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: Jinty on November 11, 2020
I found this online "The Canary Islands introduce compulsory negative Covid-19 tests from November 14th, which must be shown by all holidaymakers on arrival at their accomodation". As the UK is well within the red zone all travelers will be affected. At present there are flights from Glasgow and Edinburgh to Tenerife but I don't know how easy it is to get a private test.
Title: Re: Visitors arriving.
Post by: nophead on November 11, 2020
You can get them at Boots but they are £120, so a lot more than the airfare.