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Title: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on April 11, 2017
Is it me but trying to book for Xmas and the prices seem to be for both flights and accomendation getting more expensive than last year

Any suggestions would help please
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on April 11, 2017
Agreed. It's just cost us two thousand to stay a week from 22 Dec at los gig hotel half board for this coming Xmas. El sombrero doesn't work out much cheaper when you factor in eating out every day. Last Xmas was only £1600.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: magsnmike on April 11, 2017
I have booked my flights and hotel separately direct through the airline and the hotel.  Got quite a good deal. Same dates as last year.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: lesleygee on April 12, 2017
I booked my flights at end of  January for next January, also booked them 6 months in advance for summer hols, seems to me that you don't get last minute deals these days. Having said that I always book in advance for work reasons, but they are definitely increasing in price. We always pay a fortune for Scottish departures anyway.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on April 12, 2017
Cheapest for me is at the royal sun resort

Has anyone stayed here before

I know the walk up after a few drinks is a killer
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on April 13, 2017
Russian owned & when we went up to have a look, many of them there & if you have had the displeasure of being with them, you would not do it again. We used to complain about the Germans, they are angles compared  to the Russians. Also had a chicken sandwich while we were up there, it turned out to be chicken paste & the staff were not much better. You pay your money you take your choice.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on April 13, 2017
It is a pity that I got a good deal with the los gigantes hotel but they don't. Do bed and breakfast only half board


Has any one stayed in the north of the island and can you fly direct there
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: magsnmike on April 13, 2017
If you got a good deal with the hotel ask if you can have half board option as lunch and then eat out in the evening.   Would not stay at the Royal Sun as per other comments.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on April 14, 2017
you can get information on flights from your chosen airport to Tenerife North from sky scanner
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on April 14, 2017
If you want a nice place to stay in Puerto de la Cruz, try ambassador apartments on Thomson website. I can highly recommend. I too wish LG hotel did b and b not just half board.

Talking of Russians, we've just come back from Paphos and they are everywhere there and buying up property there like mad and Russian signage everywhere. Very abrupt, unfriendly people.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Shifnalgirl on April 14, 2017
You might be best looking at apartments try on booking.com. I think prices have risen in the last year or so but I think this is driven by supply and demand especially in the Winter good luck
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on April 14, 2017
Thanks everyone for the feedback

Mags minke I totally agree with what you said

We have a lovely breakfast then tea and cake around 4 after a long walk

We don't like the evening meal arrangements because we have enough stress and like to go out in the evening

But we are definitely going to the thai
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: linda on April 15, 2017
Not many Russians at royal sun as now contracted to Thomson we go up there sometimes for a drink or a meal found everyone fine.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on April 15, 2017
We can spot the Russians on sight, they all look like they got dressed in the dark, with the garish clothes pulled out of an old haversack!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on April 15, 2017
Pilgrim

Are you sure that they are not arsenal supporters xx
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on April 15, 2017
Yes, they could be Arsenal and Chelsea and Spurs with a bit of Palace all thrown in. Rainbow may also be a description.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on April 16, 2017
Very good

Come on Chelsea this afternoon
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 12, 2017
Still cannot get a good deal for Xmas

Should I give it a few months longer and see what happens

Also there are no rental able apartments in lg and we don't want to go elsewhere

What are El sombrero apartments like

We can book via Thomas cook
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: lesleygee on May 12, 2017
El Sombrero are very good. Basic but spotlessly clean. Beautiful gardens maintained by Borderio, excellent pool area, nice pool bar serving snacks and the location is great, as you know, across the road from the Harbour Club.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on May 12, 2017
Are the El Sombrero apartments time share.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: lesleygee on May 13, 2017
No they are run by Juan, Pedro and Borderio, who I think is on the village council, or he's always involved in the fund raising events for the  Carnivals but they've recently let some of there apartments to Thomas Cook, they also do car hire. We stayed in those apartments around four times, a lot of swallows return every winter. We still go and have a chat with them when we come out every January.  I'd definitely recommend them to anyone looking for a place to stay.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on May 13, 2017
I am afraid the costs for accommodation are going to go up & up, with what the hotelier groups have done to stop private letting and the Government not allowing any further Tourist Licences for any complexes. Compound this with the troubles in other parts of the Tourist world, I am afraid it is lack of supply plus an increase in demand.

I know from first hand talking to holiday makers who have rented in my complex legally in January & February 2 weeks late Jan Ä1700.00 - 1 week Feb including UK flights £1900.00.

 I was also talking to an owner in a legal complex near by this week again this is a complex with dual owners, outrights & timeshare they said that any timeshare owner who wants extra weeks they used to pay just the maintenance fee for those weeks but now they will have to pay the going rate of Ä700.00 per week. These costs are for accommodation only.

The only good thing you could say is that owners of apartments in legally Touristic complexes could be rubbing their hands, their properties are going to be worth a lot more money in the future when they want to sell them.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: lesleygee on May 13, 2017
Regardless of cost I would go stir crazy without my holidays every year. Work's getting more stressful every week so no matter how much the prices increase, we'll be there.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Mary on May 13, 2017
If it's winter sun people want then your options excluding long haul are limited.
Before we retired we always came over for  Xmas as we had closed our business down for a couple of weeks,
And flights were  always very very expensive.
We still come out two or three times a year, but not over the Xmas period so find flights much less expensive.
Also as places like Turkey and holiday resorts around that area are perceived to be a risk for some holidaymakers, the Canaries are increasingly attractive, and this is reflected in prices, it's all about supply and demand.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 14, 2017
Just booked El sombrero opposite harbour club

Got a good deal with Thomas Cook and after reading the excellent reviews can't wait

Happy days
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: lesleygee on May 14, 2017
I'm sure you'll love it Georgie, as I said, excellent location and very clean.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: will on May 15, 2017
Hope it has wi fi or you may have withdrawal symptoms
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: gaz on May 15, 2017
I read in Island Connections that the Supreme Court in Madrid has dealt a blow to the hoteliers and is to allow private renting even the renting of a single room. So in near future more rooms and apartments will become available thus driving down prices.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 15, 2017
Will

I must admit I very rarely go on Internet when I am away

I am on a computer all day every day so it is a great escape having no wifi

Also very rarely read papers abroad

But on trip advisor it does say you have to pay for wi if so I know what you mean
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: lesleygee on May 15, 2017
They charge daily for WiFi. You're better having a wine or coffee in the village at green corner, bamboo bar etc and using theirs.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: magsnmike on May 15, 2017
We stayed at ElSombrero at Easter.  WIFI is 30 euros for the week.  It is a bit hit and miss.  They also charge if you want to hire a television, not sure of the cost as we do not bother with a t.v. whilst away.  HP has probably got the best connection in the village.   
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: el presidente on May 16, 2017
Gaz,
I have been unable to find anything on this. Please elaborate!
"The Supreme Court in Madrid has dealt a blow to the hoteliers and is to allow private renting even the renting of a single room. So in near future more rooms and apartments will become available thus driving down prices".


Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: gaz on May 16, 2017
If you get a copy of the Island Connections paper you will see it is front page headlines.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on May 16, 2017
I have read the article also, it is on the front & second pages, it indicates that what the Canarian Government in league with the hotel association Ashotel acted illegally stopping private rentals.

It also states that Ashotel's agreement of 2015 is now also under review, let's hope now, that people who invested their savings in property are allowed the freedom to rent and also are not ripped off by the sole agents anymore.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Tanemera on May 16, 2017
Here are the links to the article in Island Connections on 13 May, 2017.....

Page 1  http://pdf.islandconnections.eu/795/pdf/island_connections_001.pdf (http://pdf.islandconnections.eu/795/pdf/island_connections_001.pdf)

Page 2  http://pdf.islandconnections.eu/795/pdf/island_connections_002.pdf (http://pdf.islandconnections.eu/795/pdf/island_connections_002.pdf)
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 16, 2017
Hopefully this will free up property rentals in lg so that there is more choice which in such a beautiful area lacks supply and turning myself off of buying because of the none return on investment
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: losjack on May 17, 2017
If the whole business is illegal the owners who have been fined should get their money back.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on May 17, 2017
Losjack that is wishful thinking considering how the law works over there.

Our complex had 8 owners fined 5 of them got their money back 3 of us including myself went into court on a different day with a stand in judge who knew nothing about the case and with no proof of any kind we were all found guilty, one owner was never even listed on the BOC.

It cost each of us over Ä4000.00 to fight this injustice, that was on top of the Ä13800.00 that each of us were fined.

Although our lawyer tried to persuade  the judge of his error he would not admit his mistake and because of the legal system, we were not allowed to appeal. (Justice I don't think so)

Should a miracle ever happen I will make some people happy and change my post name!!!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on May 17, 2017
So it has costed you 17800E, and that's that!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on May 17, 2017
No it has cost the 3 of us Ä53400.00 if you think that,s nothing, perhaps you would like to send me a cheque and I can share it out between the 3 of us, you muppet. 
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 17, 2017
Sorry to interfere but is there no comback with the estate agent or selling agent

Seems terribly unfair and really sorry to hear this especially if you want to retire the last thing you need is aggrevation and so much expense

Is there no such thing as the fca

Is there not a regulatory ruling body that can help

In the uk we are being pushed to implement mifid2 which is a tight Europe regulation so there must be something
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on May 17, 2017
No Unhappy, you have got me wrong! I am totally in shock for you. You said there was no appeal, even when the judge was clearly wrong. That is what I meant by "That's that then!"
You do jump to the wrong conclusion at times.
No offence or muppetry was ever intended.
It could quite easily have been me or one of my neighbours that was also fined!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 17, 2017
Unhappy

I have looked at the web site for the financial ombudsman in the uk

Try writing to them

And sorry if you already have but go through the web site and try

It does cover European regulation and financial issues

Again worth a try and sorry if you have already tried
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: lesleygee on May 17, 2017
The crux of the matter - the law is an ass.  I have read on previous posts about the injustice you owners have suffered and I was also hoping that some form of recompense would come your way should this new ruling be upheld. But as you say unhappy it would cost you even more to seek justice.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 17, 2017
Lesleyjee

What about the local politicians in the uk how many are in this trap

There is a vote coming up and how many are caught in this trap and also brexit

It's like not fair
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: lesleygee on May 17, 2017
Georgie,
I'm afraid you've lost me there. I was merely expressing my sympathy for all the owners who were previously penalised.  As for Brexit, that's another can of worms.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on May 18, 2017
Please accept my apologies Pilgrim, it is still very raw and unfair the 3 of us feel we have been robbed and treated as criminals. 
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on May 18, 2017
Getting  back to the "getting expensive" theme, we are currently at a 5* hotel all inclusive in Turkey. It has cost the two of us in total just over one thousand pounds for two weeks, flying from Gatwick. I dread to think what this sort of high end holiday would cost in Tenerife - probably nearer four thousand. Such a shame as actually we would prefer to be in Tenerife but couldn't afford it.

We paid about one thousand to stay at el.sombrero last Christmas for ten days and when you compare that with the luxury here in Turkey, it's a joke.

I love LG though.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: gaz on May 18, 2017
Can not understand all inclusive as by staying there you are not helping local economy and not engaging in local culture, you may as well stay in Blackpool. Channel 4 did a programme a few years ago about difference in cost between all inclusive and self catering and self catering cost less. The problem with most expats who go to LG is that they go to British restaurants and bars and never leave LG. Do yourselves a favour and go to places like Bar Antonio in Playa San Juan or La Barrica in Cuelvo de Polvo excellent fresh food at cheap prices and unlike some British establishments do not have 3 price structures , 1 for locals, 1 for swallows and 1 for tourists. There is more to Tenerife than little Britain also known as lg go up the road to Playa La Arena to Am Eck or Domingos 2 excellent restaurants serving fresh food unlike the frozen food served in LG. Get a cheap flight and now with new regs cheap apartment and have a proper 5 star hol for less than trouble hotspot Turkey.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: blarer on May 18, 2017
You're presuming SandyLea doesn't use these places when staying in Los Gigantes
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: magsnmike on May 18, 2017
We try and spread our holiday across LG, PS and Arena and occasionally will go to Alcala or San Juan.  We do not stay in the village all of the holiday, but it is a holiday and time to relax so I think if people choose to stay within the village it is their choice to do so and they are still adding to the economy.  It is still cheaper to eat a meal, starter, main course wine and beer, in LG, PS and Arena than it is here in England.  Price wise I still think you get excellent value for money. 

I hope it is true about the ruling in Madrid as it will open up the rental market yet again, and is only good news for the whole of the island.   
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: LucyW on May 18, 2017
The Supteme court ruling will not change anything regarding the letting of private apartments and the Canarian Government have already lodged their appeal. Owners will still have to apply for a licence to enable them to let and jump through so many hoops, not the least being declaration of tax on income & IVA that they will be running for the hills. It will also remain illegal to let on complexes classified as residential, which covers the majority of apartments in Los Gigantes.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on May 19, 2017
We do actually go to very authentic restaurants, tapas places when in Tenerife. The point I am trying to make is that a holiday in Tenerife, whether all inclusive or self catering, is more expensive than a holiday in Greece, turkey.or even mainland Spain and the Tenerife accommodation is not up to the other destination's standards unless you pay maybe Four times as much.

It is all very noble of you espousing the need to put money into the local economy by tourists but tourists have a budget and if Tenerife is not competitive it will lose out.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on May 19, 2017
LucyW, whilst I am in no position to disagree with you there must be something going on, why have Ashotel already saying they are prepared to renegotiate, of course the Government will appeal (lucky for them).

What needs to be done is that the appeal court needs information like ours where the Government sent  Inspectors to complexes, they did not even get into ours because it is a gated complex, they fined owners at random on top of the 8 I have mentioned they also fined 3 other owners, these owners do not even let other family members use their properties, in fact one comes for 4 months Jan to Apr it is then closed down until  they return the next January.

Other anomalies, we had owners, owning more than one apartment, also Spanish & Italian owners how random it was, none of these were fined. 






 
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: blarer on May 19, 2017
Re the article in Island Connections. The Spanish Government are taking the ruling on the Vivienda Vacacional Decree to the Appeal Court.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: frogeddy on May 19, 2017
I understand that it is the Canarian Government that are appealing, not the Spanish Government.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 19, 2017
Lesleyjee

Please write to the uk financial ombudsman and don't woory about my reference to brexit

That was a red herring in so far as the changes to legal agreements in europe which they must abide by

Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: gaz on May 19, 2017
LucyW if you read the article in Island Connections you will see that private rentals will be allowed even the letting of individual rooms will be allowed, there is no mention of exclusions to this. As regards forms and hoops to be jumped through the court stated there were too many of these and they needed to be reduced. It was expected that the Canarian Government would appeal but as the Supreme Court ruled it was anti competition that would mean it is against EU Law so do not see them winning that, so lets look forward to cheaper rents.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: gaz on May 19, 2017
Sandy Lea I do not know where you eat and drink in Tenerife but time you looked around because there is no way anywhere in Spain is cheaper than Tenerife, you can go into Bar Central and get a beer for a euro ,food also dirt cheap, wont get cheaper anywhere else maybe Turkey alright but who wants to go to Turkey very few that why it cheap, not as safe as Canaries.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: LucyW on May 20, 2017
Gaz - You are very naive if you think the court ruling is going to make Los Gigantes awash with cheap rentals. The majority of complexes are classified as residential and it will still remain illegal to rent out these apartments for holiday lets. Despite the ruling. the Canarian Government will still have the right and the power to insist that any touristic apartments for let will require to be properly licenced, insured for letting, meet current electrical standards (which will mean a rewire for many) and be registered with the tax authorities. Do you think the owners are going to absorb the expenses involved with meeting these requirements and then reduce their rentals?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: lesleygee on May 20, 2017
We actually go to mainland Spain every summer. The price of flights is the same as our flight to Tenerife. The cost of our apartment is double what we pay in Tenerife. I think the value and quality we get for our money in Tenerife is excellent, plus we love the people and the area, as I said previously we will always return, it is our haven, no matter how much it costs, as Magsnmike stated it is much cheaper than back home.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on May 20, 2017
LucyW, good owners will because they will get repeat bookings. Instead of the draconian action the Government took which in most cases cost them money, they employed Inspectors at a cost, most of the fines they have had to give back and the legal costs in the courts.

What they should have done without the pressure from Ashotel, was any owner that wanted to rent their property they had to pay a registration/ licence fee say Ä1000.00 for an apartment Ä2500.00 for a villa per year, this would then pay for the Inspectors who could visit any legal property, if that property was not of the required standard they would lose their licence and never be able to get it back.

Not only would this keep the properties to the standard the Government are seeking for Tenerife it would increase the volume of tourists thus increasing the amount of money spent here and also increase the tax revenue, because if you are licensed you would need to pay tax. This would not increase the cost of renting as there would be a lot more properties on the market.

This also would do away with the need to have the blood sucking sole agent system, the Government then would be in a win win situation more visitors, more revenue. 
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 20, 2017
I agree the food and drink is of high quality and very cheap

The return flights are cheap and living in essex we have the option of Southern luton and stanstead and to a lesser extent gat wick

It is just the quality and prices of the apartments

We always love pablado mariero which is cheap but when over in December after 12 odd years in these apartments finally decided they were to old and the up keep not really good for what is the best view and location in los gigantes

We travel to other countries during the year but this village is my favourite and we have made some friends also
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on May 20, 2017
You are right Georgie, the quality of apartments is not good. And, Turkey is as safe as London, Paris, Brussels, anywhere really.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: LucyW on May 20, 2017
Unhappy - I take your point but there are two ways you can look at this. I have been resident in LG for a good number of years and know a lot of owners who let out their apartments. Almost without exception they say they will no longer let if they have to be licenced,and everything that goes with it. A lot of these people use their apartments for maybe 4/5 months of the year and then rent out 'under the radar' just to cover their annual expenses. The effect of this scenario would be an increase of folk wanting to rent a reduced number of available apartments, which would result in higher prices. A licenced scheme, with the costs involved, would certainly help raise the standards of the apartments,which would be good for the tourists, but would only be attractive to the owners who seriously 'buy to let' and not the majority of owners who have owned for a long time.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on May 20, 2017
Georgie - after all these months of your inane comments and subjects, seams you have finally hit the "jackpot" with this one. Now on to third screen!  Well Done
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: amibovvered on May 20, 2017
LucyW, good owners will because they will get repeat bookings. Instead of the draconian action the Government took which in most cases cost them money, they employed Inspectors at a cost, most of the fines they have had to give back and the legal costs in the courts.

What they should have done without the pressure from Ashotel, was any owner that wanted to rent their property they had to pay a registration/ licence fee say Ä1000.00 for an apartment Ä2500.00 for a villa per year, this would then pay for the Inspectors who could visit any legal property, if that property was not of the required standard they would lose their licence and never be able to get it back.

Not only would this keep the properties to the standard the Government are seeking for Tenerife it would increase the volume of tourists thus increasing the amount of money spent here and also increase the tax revenue, because if you are licensed you would need to pay tax. This would not increase the cost of renting as there would be a lot more properties on the market.

This also would do away with the need to have the blood sucking sole agent system, the Government then would be in a win win situation more visitors, more revenue.

Well said @unhappy

I have criticised @unhappy before for his seemingly "glass half full" comments on a number of topics but in this case his propsals make very good sense and would , I am sure, encourage good owners.  However, as @LucyW has indicated there are dozens , if not hundreds of owners living "under the radar", as she puts it, and appears to condone.  Maybe the inspectors who were previously employed chasing people like @unhappy could be employed more gainfully chasing the tax dodgers......but that's another can of worms.  8) 8)
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 20, 2017
Thanks pilgrim

I have learnt my lesson

Post before you have a drink at night
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on May 20, 2017
LucyW, that is my whole point they are letting illegally and believe me the Inspectors are still active. They might change their minds when they are fined thousands of euros, a great deal more money than they are receiving to cover their annual expenses.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: gaz on May 23, 2017
LucyW I am not naive I am just stating facts under EU anti competition rules the Canarian government can not prevent people renting out their apartments to protect the hoteliers and even now if you look up Airbnb you will see plenty of apartments,rooms and even campervans  to rent in various parts of Tenerife at quite good rates.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Edward Bear on May 23, 2017
gaz, technically we are not in the EEC, example duty free allowances. Just asking.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 23, 2017
Just looked at air Bnb and wow there are lots of options

Thanks for this

My sons have used this in Europe and are very impressed

Perhaps next year I will try them

Another silly question without any experience or a beer

Are they regulated to rent as per previous posts
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: gaz on May 23, 2017
Edward Bear Technically it is the EU not EEC and secondly Tenerife is in the EU, it and the rest of the Canaries were given special dispensation to allow them remain duty free ,as without tourism there is no other industry to sustain the islands economically, which would lead to mass emigration.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 27, 2017
Just watched  a programme called a place in the sun on uk tv and they were showing the gold bronze looking apartments in Puerto santiago just by cardiac steps and opposite the road to the Barcelo hotel

They were mentioning be careful without a tourist licence you will get find and the authorities were out looking

Just in case

But I still cannot understand why there are plenty of apts on air bnb

If you rent and they knocked on your door would the holiday maker get fined

Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: janey on May 28, 2017
Just watched  a programme called a place in the sun on uk tv and they were showing the gold bronze looking apartments in Puerto santiago just by cardiac steps and opposite the road to the Barcelo hotel


that episode was filmed about 5 years ago.  got to be one of the worst programs to be made. 
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 22, 2017
I have pre booked 2 visits and am worried about the exchange rates and inflation issues

Is it better to go full board and not worry
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: gaz on July 21, 2017
Just a quick update, the Canarian Government has had a third judgement against them regarding private lets. All information on Janet Anscombe site.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 29, 2017
With the exchange rate the way it is booking in advance for cheap holidays is a must

Also any restaurants with good set menu deals or bars in los gigantes doing drink offers will always help

Has anyone seen this or not concerned

Not out for a few weeks and was wordering if anyone has feedback for the tourists and me
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Edward Bear on August 29, 2017
georgie, if you can't afford it don't do it.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on August 29, 2017
At the moment the tourist trade is booming in Tenerife I know of one complex that the developer has purchased 8 properties back from outright owners including my own.

In the last month besides the developer, I have had 2 private buyers making offers & 2 estate agents trying to view my apartment, also an estate agent from Germany calling me at home in the UK saying he had loads of buyers because of the strength of the Euro wishing to purchase.

I can see the rental rates for legal properties only going up & up.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: gaz on August 30, 2017
Georgie sometimes it is good to get out of LG for good value try Juanitos in Puerto Santiago cheap and cheerful or La Barrica in Cuelvo de Polvo where because of portion sizes 2 people could share 1 pork chop and wine quite good quality and value, then pop into Bar Berto for cheap drink. Think there must be plenty of value to be had in general area and it would be great if people let us know best places.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: suzy975 on September 28, 2017
I'm a travel agent and have noticed prices have gone up sooooooooo much for everywhere for next year :( defo think the exchange rate has a lot to do with it but the holiday I have booked for next summer has already gone up by £600 for a family of four within 6 weeks !! heres hoping prices will come back down again
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on September 29, 2017
I have looked at next year around the time we usually go and on average it is around 220 pounds more expensive

With inflation just very low why is this

Is it the price of plane fuel

Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: gaz on September 30, 2017
Another reason for rise in prices is the terrorist attacks throughout europe and people feel spain and its islands are a safer bet so hotels and airlines have raised prices
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 22, 2017
I was wondering what the local euro sterling rate was please
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: AWOL on November 23, 2017
1.10
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: AWOL on November 23, 2017
Just seen 1.0950 in Playa Arena who normally mirror Jesus in LG
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on November 23, 2017
The exchange rate in Lanzarote today is 1.13 no commission.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 23, 2017
Davymar

We are there in 2 weeks time and stay by the marina rubicon in playa blanca

Where are you
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on November 23, 2017
Georgie, we have been staying in Puerto del Carmen, but in the old part, right in front of the entrance to the harbour, nice and quiet, suits us.
We have been to Rubicon today, the last time we visited it was being built! it is very nice and it is somewhere where we would be happy to stay, they have managed to make a good non tacky job of it. which is more than we can say for the mass tourism that has enveloped the island, anyone who wears black socks and sandals, union jack shorts, plus a jjb sports vivid top would fit in well, a scantily clad 18 stone tattood woman would gain bonus points!  compared to los gigs it was a shock ;D 
Title: Re: Getting
Post by: will on January 04, 2018
Just booked El sombrero opposite harbour club

Got a good deal with Thomas Cook and after reading the excellent reviews can't wait

Happy days
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: frogeddy on January 04, 2018
Get a life Will ....
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: will on January 04, 2018
Have not got long left as I am probably on my last lap.
I am sorry if my post has upset anyone,but Goeorgie just keeps posting items that if any one with a good memory can remember he contradicts himself on many fronts.He says he has been coming for 15 yrs yet seems to know very little about LG .Restaurants  ,Cafes ,Apartments buying or renting for a small example.
Happy New Year everyone.

Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: frogeddy on January 04, 2018
Will, .... so what? Why does it seem to offend you?.....surely Georgie can post whatever he wants ... the same as you or I...or anyone else. It's called free speech, Will
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on January 04, 2018
Will let's paint a scenario

You work say in London

Your boss says you must stay in the office for 51 weeks and on the last week you are allowed to go out

In London there are many buildings going up and restaurants opening and closing and shops also opening and closing

You go out and things have changed

If I go to los gigantes one week a year how do I work out what is new or not therefore I ask these questions unless I have google earth or high powered binoculars
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: gladys on January 05, 2018
Well said Georgie, we are regular visitors to LG at least twice a year. Nearly every time we come a bar or restaurant has closed, moved or a new one has opened. For instance we were there in September and knew nothing about the new one where Archie's used to be. This is a good forum for information.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on January 05, 2018
Back to the original 'getting expensive' topic, I hear el sombrero's prices have increased since the refurb of the rooms.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on January 05, 2018
At least you get music and entertainment in stereo
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: will on January 13, 2018
I have been off line while I had a week in Scotland.Have I missed anything in LG while I have been away?
There appears to be no changes made to the restaurants and bars in this time.
Just a thought I have had a villa an apartment and a berth in the marina over the last 18years,and I have seen many changes to the businesses and to the local residents, some have come and some have gone.
In the Bamboo recently a local resident Boat Mary was mentioned,it came as a surprise to me to hear that she was no longer with us.I only saw here here and there,but it is sad to hear of her passing even though it was a while ago I am told.There are many characters such as Second Hand Frank,Hand Bag Barbara,Big (shrek)Eric and Dorada Dave who I am sure are fondly  remembered by older residents of LG.
Some of these have sadly died and some I haven't seen for ages.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: lesleygee on January 13, 2018
Will, I know we are laid back in  Scotland, but we definitely have wifi. 😅😅😅
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: will on January 13, 2018
I left the laptop in LG.Back in tune now.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: lesleygee on January 13, 2018
Glad to hear it.  You were probably too busy taking in the sights anyway.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on January 18, 2018
Just looked on Internet for prices for either december 2018 or March 2019 and the prices are stable and in fact slightly lower

So things are back to normal

Will wait to go to el sombrero apartments shortly to re book
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: susieq22 on January 19, 2018
Will ,l remember handbag Barbara a good friend in England and especially los gigantes .
Sadly missed.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on January 22, 2018
Just looked at the prices for December 2018 in los gigantes and you can get a fully inclusive cruise for around 200 sterling different for 1 week around the islands including morracco

Can't understand how this is

This is hotels and apartments

Has anyone done this type of cruise a week before Xmas
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: janey on January 23, 2018
Just looked at the prices for December 2018 in los gigantes and you can get a fully inclusive cruise for around 200 sterling different for 1 week around the islands including morracco

Can't understand how this is

This is hotels and apartments

Has anyone done this type of cruise a week before Xmas

i think you should give it a go georgie.  they may have a website who can advise you, perhaps someone who has already cruised the week before xmas maybe?  you can ask them about the food choices on board and the entertainment details.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on January 23, 2018
Hi Georgie

we've cruised in early/mid December, its probably one of the cheapest time to cruise, if you've never cruised before only you can decide if you like it, all I would say is decide what you want and make sure the ship you choose caters for you, go to an independent travel agent that specialises in cruises, its no dearer than doing it yourself and you'll end up with a packaged deal so you'll be ATOL protected,  if you want lots of choice of entertainment and restaurants then the bigger the ship the more choice you will have and if you like a few beers in the evening make sure its either all inclusive (and read the small print) or buy a drinks package or expect to pay London prices +++   
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on January 26, 2018
We went on our first cruise in October around the med and really enjoyed it

I might book the canaries cruise for December it seems good value with tui and we enjoyed all inclusive which I was worried about but loved it
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: magsnmike on January 26, 2018
Booked El Sombrero for 29 December 2018. Thomas Cook. Great price for two weeks as they are currently offering a discount.  £1398 including 20kg baggage allowance for two.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on January 27, 2018
Booked 10 nights in the sensimar hotel on 23 Dec about £3000 for both of us. More expensive that Christmas just gone.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on January 27, 2018
booked return flights from Birmingham for 30 December, 16 nights, £156 each including seats and guaranteed cabin bags - we though that was a good price
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on January 27, 2018
SandyLea just thinking where is the Sensimar Hotel! But see it is the old LG Hotel - or what used to be. How much more money will you need for spending during your stay. Just asking as my brother in law, his wife and 8 year old son, spent £4600 for eight nights in adeje over the new year including spending money.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on January 27, 2018
Hi pilgrim, we go half board so only need money for drinks really and actually the drinks are very reasonably priced in the hotel. We also take a bit of money for bus fare to get out and see the island.  While lazing by the pool, we usually buy large bottles of cola or sprite from the supermarket to drink, saving money at the bar. We do go over the square after dinner for drinks in Louis's bar (now 23 degrees) but you do get massive drinks for the cost. We also have dinner in La Boduegita for a change as their lamb chop dinner is great value for 9 euros.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on January 27, 2018
Just giving it further thought pilgrim, I did a lot of research into prices last year and the adeje hotels were all a lot dearer than the los Gigantes hotel but they do seem a bit better quality. Trouble is we love LG, hence having stayed at El Sombrero too for a good 10 years. I just got sick of paying extra at El Sombrero for TV, WiFi etc and it was getting very dated whereas the hotel does have lovely modern rooms with huge comfortable beds, brilliant views from both sides.  If you're on a budget, you can get away with just purely drink money. You can swipe bread, cheese, ham etc at breakfast for lunch to save a few bob too which I have seen people doing.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on January 27, 2018
Magsnmike

We are going with Thomas Cook to the El sombrero apartments in March for the first time and I found on the Internet that they do a package which include sitting together and extra luggage and food both out and return

The food worked out at 4 pounds for both of us each why which is a bargain

We have stayed at the hotel which is great but like the freedom of eating out in lg if the price is reasonable

Still helping paying off kids uni fees
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on January 27, 2018
Just reading the telegraph online and they say the Canary government is to introduce a tourist tax

Not sure how much but it will get even dearer

How crazy
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: magsnmike on January 27, 2018
There has been a tourist tax in Europe for the last few years.  You have to pay cash on departure and its about 5 Euros a night. 
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 01, 2018
Just looked on the superdino web site and food seems reasonable and they delivery if you spend over 65 euros which I think is very reasonable

Anyone tried this and what is the food like
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: peridot on February 02, 2018
Dino is a very good supermarket - there fresh meat and cheese super.  They will generally give you a 2 hour deliver slot and are punctual.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 03, 2018
Sounds good to me

Is it better value than other supermarkets and do others deliver please
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 04, 2018
I have been looking at prices in playa San juan which looks lovely

Has anyone stayed there because I am finding it difficult to find accomendation there
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 11, 2018
Does anyone know the entrance price for the oasis in los gigantes please

And how reasonable is the lunch menu

We always have had lunch here and it is lovely
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: javars on February 12, 2018
Does anyone know the entrance price for the oasis in los gigantes please

And how reasonable is the lunch menu

We always have had lunch here and it is lovely

https://www.oasislosgigantes.com/galeria.php?producto=13&oasis-los-gigantes (https://www.oasislosgigantes.com/galeria.php?producto=13&oasis-los-gigantes)
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 13, 2018
Thanks for the link

Very useful

What other good value ideas are there

What about boat trips to see the Dolphins

Who is most price competitive now the old yellow boats with the lovely spainish fella and chinese wife

Can't remember their names

What are they doing now
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on February 13, 2018
Alonzo and Betty, saw them walking together 2 weeks ago in Puerto Santiago
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 22, 2018
Prices for hotels and departments seem to have fallen since last year

I have just looked at the royal sun apartments and I think they are around 200 pounds cheaper this year for December 2018

Has anyone noticed this
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on February 23, 2018
The tui Sensimar los Gigantes hotel is more expensive for Christmas 18 than it was for Christmas 17.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 23, 2018
Sandy lee

I was looking at the 14th for 1week not over xmas sorry I should have been more specific

I expect xmas would be more expensive
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on February 24, 2018
Earlier in December is cheaper, yes, Georgie, but if you search on Thomas cook website for 11 nights 21 Dec 2018 to 1 Jan 2019 at El Sombrero, it gives a price of some 2,600 GBP for two people. That sum for very basic self catering accommodation is damned expensive by anyone's standards. Until two years ago, we always went to el Sombrero for Christmas and New year but now go to the hotel as for a couple of hundred more you get half board, much better standard of accommodation, free television and WiFi and entertainment.  I really think el Sombrero are taking the mickey but they'll still be fully booked! I know some rooms have been refurbished but it's been done rather cheaply, eg just new cupboard doors, not whole units, and believe it or not, putting new baths inside the old baths!

Accommodation in LG is expensive because it has a small amount of choice. Maybe cheaper to rent private apartment but that maybe illegal if not in a tourist complex and lots of people booking private properties have been scammed. Adeje getting expensive also the more upmarket they're getting.

Royal sun looks nice but couldn't face that hill a couple of times a day every day.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 24, 2018
What would you say is the best curry at a reasonable price

And do they do a meal deal or menu of the Day

Never had a curry in tenerife before
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: javars on February 26, 2018
What would you say is the best curry at a reasonable price

And do they do a meal deal or menu of the Day

Never had a curry in tenerife before

I can only speak as I find but Bombay babou in Arena was spectacular. Otherwise the only other I had was Krishnas (when they were open) in LG which was shocking
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on February 26, 2018
Bobby's in Playa Arena, we think is best for value, in fact I think they improved since Bombay Babu has opened.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: will on February 26, 2018
Bobbys is opening in the village in Krishnas old restaurant I believe.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 27, 2018
2weeks to go before we come over

I have my cheap list and will stick by it

Again sorry from previous post where do we deliver the wool for the charity

Sorry cannot remember

Also has anyone been to a service at the los gigantes church and are there any charity events there
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: mike b 7 on March 16, 2018
Hi ,
     This is my first post I have booked a 2 bed apartment  2 bathrooms for 3 weeks next xmas total £1100 sleeps 5 and central location in los gigantes through airbnb has wifi and fully equipped with bed linen provided ,flights from Bournemouth cost £248 return Ryanair ,I have spoken to several people who use airbnb all the time with no problems and have travelled to many places in europe.
This is my first time with airbnb the process is very easy and the cost is £279 p.p. plus flights worth trying and the reviews are good for the apartment .
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on March 17, 2018
Seems very cheap to me and I would be worried. I know for a fact that a 2b&b at that time of the year would be around £1000.00 per week if done legally, I hope you paid by credit card not any other method.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: javars on March 17, 2018
Hi ,
     This is my first post I have booked a 2 bed apartment  2 bathrooms for 3 weeks next xmas total £1100 sleeps 5 and central location in los gigantes through airbnb has wifi and fully equipped with bed linen provided ,flights from Bournemouth cost £248 return Ryanair ,I have spoken to several people who use airbnb all the time with no problems and have travelled to many places in europe.
This is my first time with airbnb the process is very easy and the cost is £279 p.p. plus flights worth trying and the reviews are good for the apartment .

Ive stayed in LG with air BNB for a similar amount, do you have a link ? it could be the same apartment
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: mike b 7 on March 19, 2018
Hi
   Reference my post about airbnb the flat is in calle las adelfas and has communial swimming  pool ,I paid my deposit via credit card direct to airbnb as they advise never to pay the flat owner direct ,my receipt looked very authentic and came from their office very quickly ,I have also spoken to the owner direct as I needed to ask about the wi fi in the flat the owners contact number is not released until a firm booking is made by a customer the full address and phone number is given the flat can be seen on google earth as well as on the airbnb website .

mike b 7
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: javars on March 19, 2018
Different to the apartment Ive stayed in but have used Airbnb a few times now and its been a great experience

Steve
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 30, 2018
Booked again with thomas cook for el somrero apartments  really lovely amd clean and friendly

Can't wait
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 07, 2018
Also just booked Puerto de la cruz for the first time in March 19

Never been to the north of the island and don't know what to expect

Any tips and we got a good deal with jet2 holidays
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: VictorM on July 08, 2018
Usually, slighter  cooler and damper than LG, Georgie.  But Plaza Charco area and other attractions eg Loro Parque are great. Wine Museum at El Suezal, if still open, also good.  My favourite place nearby is Garachico, a Titsa bus journey and is good value.  Much more history in the North than the South/Southwest.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on July 08, 2018
Georgie,
are you flying into the North airport? we have done this a few times, not actually stayed in the North but landed at the airport, far better than the South airport, more chilled, its a hell of a transfer otherwise, taxi wanted over 100 euro, so we drove instead.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: blarer on July 08, 2018
I'd add the Botanical Gardens and for a day out, taking the bus to La Laguna, or Santa Cruz,regular express bus from the bus station plus bus to La Oratava, to VictorM's list  Puerto de la Cruz is a great hub for seeing the more interesting parts of the island. I'd also endorse Garachico as well worth a visit   
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on July 09, 2018
I agree with all the other posts, but as you are going in March some warm clothing & it could be a bit wet so a waterproof also.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Howlinwolf on July 09, 2018
Agree about The Wine Museum VictorM, we go every year it's very much still open. The restaurant is really good with traditional dishes and a lovely choice of local wine by the glass. Great views of Teide from the terrace too.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 20, 2018
How are the property prices holding up generally locally

And did the little shop by the harbour club get sold
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on July 21, 2018
Having just sold a property & we did look at purchasing another, the prices are to expensive even agents say owners are asking too much.

What some owners don't realize there are about another 300 apts coming onto the market soon & after speaking to the developer who have already considered the prices.

Also there is a large plot of land that has planning & a tourist licence for sale in the same area.

You will always sell property in a prime location, but I feel some owners need to be a little more realistic.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: AWOL on July 21, 2018
Hi Unhappy,

Presume you are talking about the apartments up by Mecodona. Really good these are at long last being sorted. Rumour has it the complex was bought by the hotel in a land swop with the Council so at least the area is being tidied up.

AWOL
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on July 21, 2018
Yes that is the site, but talking to them they have slowed down because the market is not that good, other countries are now open for business & the weather over there has been poor for the last few years, so buyers are looking at other places.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on July 21, 2018
Tell them to come to London, property is getting cheaper here, and the weather more like Tenerife by the day!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 22, 2018
Weather is great that's why we stay at home during summer where we visit the coast like Southend and Claxton Brighton

Then we it gets cold the vagaries

Happy days
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on July 22, 2018
"vagaries"??
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: will on July 23, 2018
Vagaries is one of the 10000 most used words in the Collins English dictionary.
I have used the other 9999 but not this one .
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 23, 2018
Sorry spell check blew up

Should say canaries
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 24, 2018
You can find good value if you look

We did in restaurants and shopping in macadenia up the hill

The menu of the day is good in restaurants and harbour club prices are very reasonable
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on July 24, 2018
Georgie, you are rambling again !
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 25, 2018
Sorry unhappy

Just got off the central line in london where it is currently 101 degrees

I will check my English before posting

I am only young at 59 so need help
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 29, 2018
Just looking at prices and they look stable for next year

Other prices elsewhere look expensive
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 29, 2018
Also and very interesting our friends are coming out with us in December and booked airbnb and what good value they got near the church square

Next year we will try it
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on July 30, 2018
Is it the building with the big front door & a cross on it they booked with airbnb
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on July 30, 2018
The noisy bell was a givaway!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 30, 2018
That's the place

Very peaceful and quiet with the odd noisey singing with the odd fella sitting outside every day

Have you been there
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on July 31, 2018
Many times, I have never had to book though, thanks Davymar I thought I was coming down with Tinitus
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 04, 2018
What are the prices like in la pergola and abundia restaurants

Our favourite 
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Edward Bear on August 04, 2018
Georgie, if they are your favourites for heavens sake you will know what the prices are. You must suffer from acute ennui.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on August 05, 2018
Careful Edward Bear, he will be asking which restaurant it is on the Menu.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 05, 2018
How sad you both are


Has the prices come down in respect that the thread is getting expensive

Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: blarer on August 05, 2018
They're sad, have a look at your own inane postings. Pot calling the kettle black ?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Edward Bear on August 05, 2018
On behalf of unhappy and myself Thank you blarer
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Tanemera on August 06, 2018
Come on guys, this is beyond silly!  Ignore Georgie and he will go away.  It seems obvious to me that he takes great pleasure in winding you all up and the more practice he gets the more incomprehensible his posts become.  This is completely ruining what used to be a reasonable useful forum for discussion on local matters.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on August 06, 2018
It is nice that Georgie makes the effort to post. For new people, even if she is repeating something, maybe due to early onset. They may be reading it for the first time, so they will find it informative - perhaps.
If you on the other hand don't like Georgie's post's - SIMPLY DO NOT OPEN.
For some of us with early onset, all posts will appear new.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 06, 2018
Thank you pilgrim

I might be bad about posting questions but my heart is in los gigantes

Sorry everyone for posting stupid questions

It is not intended
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Tanemera on August 07, 2018
Pilgrim, I think you may have missed my point.  The last NINE posts on this link (and numerous previous posts on the same link and others) have been critical of Georgie's posts.  It's all very well suggesting I don't open Georgie's posts but it is frustrating wading through all the subsequent negative comments.  Hence my suggestion that readers ignore Georgie's posts rather than filling the Message Board with negative comments about him/her.  I agree he/she is perfectly entitled to make whatever contributions he/she sees fit to make and if readers don't like them they should do as you suggest and don't read them.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 07, 2018
But that point you are making is like Donald trump and fake news

I just like the place and because I come from essex you are offended
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on August 07, 2018
Georgie, I think sometimes your tired. But I wish you would just carry on with your day time job in Westminster, and continue to a rapid conclusion with Europe on the Brexit agreement.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 10, 2018
Excellent response and I take the joke
 
Surely one at we will all meet but I am confused who actually lives in los gigantes or who are holiday makers
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 10, 2018
Also fake news on some threads
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on August 10, 2018
Surely one at we will all meet but I am confused who actually lives in los gigantes or who are holiday makers

I think that the long haired man is a local!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: frogeddy on August 10, 2018
I give up ...I'm going to bed....
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 18, 2018
With the closure of the hotel has holiday prices gone up

We have pre booked and have not looked at 2019 yet
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on August 19, 2018
For the two of us, we've just got a week in el sombrero first week in April for £614, Gatwick flights, through Thomas cook.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 19, 2018
That is not bad I think only 90 pounds more than we paid in March

So prices are stable
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Tanemera on August 20, 2018
If you call 17.5% in 12 months "stable" I am glad you are not Chancellor of the Exchequer!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Tanemera on August 20, 2018
I suspect they are cashing in on the hotel closure.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on August 20, 2018
Yes, and they're charging more since 'refurbing' a few of the rooms.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 20, 2018
Chancellor of the excherour don't make me laugh

When have we had one in the UK

Also 90 pounds for paradise do me a favour

How much do you pay for your groceries  at home and see them go up

Therefore supermarket or los gigantes
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Tanemera on August 20, 2018
It is 90 euros MORE than last year, Georgie.  I don't think many prices in the UK are going up by 17.5% p.a.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 20, 2018
Please take everything into consideration like inflatio and the euro rate also other costs
We have voted to get out of the euro and what does everyone expect
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on August 20, 2018
If you are going to shorten words make sure you know what you are talking about, I think you will find we were never in the Euro.

At the moment we are in the EU & if people stopped bleating about us leaving the crooks there would not be trying to hold us to ransom.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 21, 2018
Are you really sure about your comments

Does anyone actually have a clue

Perhaps you should be in parliament
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on August 21, 2018
As a person who believes in democracy, which ever way you voted, that was our decision, & our decision was to leave.

We were told untruths by both sides, but if the negotiations prior to the vote by the EU had given Camaron any crumbs at all, the vote may have been different.

Unfortunately, our then Prime Minister & his lap dog Chancellor acted like little children threw their toys out of the pram & did a gutless runner.

It was never the UK that said the words "hard brexit"  it was the EU negotiater's that said it because they were scared shitless that another EU member would join us.

Although Boris should never be PM, Mrs May should have let him lead the withdrawal negotiations & he would never have put up with the crap from them that we are getting.

Its a pity they do not treat other nations like the UK, they knew we were a small Island with immigration problems and did nothing, but since the escalation of immigrants into Europe 3 EU members have stopped them including one that has even put up barbed wire fences, what has the EU done nothing, not quite a level playing field is it

We were on our own before the EU & don't forget they did not want us to join for years, but then decided they could rip us off with our contributions if they let us join.

And before you ask, YES I did vote to leave, besides the items I have mentioned before, I ran my own Company for 35 years in the UK, every year I had to submit my annual accounts to the Government.

Since its inception the EU has never issued audited accounts, so in other words they have no idea how much is coming in, & certainly NO IDEA HOW MUCH IS GOING OUT, what a way to run an organization.           
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on August 22, 2018
Good post Unhappy! :)
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Edward Bear on August 22, 2018
Must agree with you both.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 22, 2018
And me also

Good summary but still worried about who knows what
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 22, 2018
I agree with your post but still stand by the answer does anyone really know what is happening
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on August 23, 2018
The simple answer is that the EU are going to screw us on every part of the deal which I hope we have the balls to say up yours.

They will lose out, just like us if no deal is made, BUT while we have bleating MPs & others trying to over turn the already taken democratic vote in the referendum, the EU will not give us anything.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 23, 2018
Sorry about this post but it is only Germany a nd France in my option are the issue

Spain Portugal and Italy do not have a problem with us
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Post by: Georgie on September 11, 2018
Has anyone tried airbnb

They seem reasonable for the price
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Post by: javars on September 12, 2018
Yes, always had good experiences
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on September 12, 2018
I have just tried to book our usual week in Lanzarote on numerous web sites and they are coming up at least 600 pounds more expensive

Anyone have the same experience
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Post by: Georgie on September 15, 2018
Shame nobody posts on here anymore

It was a true site for people who loved los gigantes but because of the rubbish posted and if you were not with the in crowed you were killed
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Post by: Georgie on September 23, 2018
If they are spending money on pavement why can't they subsidise flights instead

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Post by: Edward Bear on September 23, 2018
I believe that you should really think about you last post Georgie.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: linda on September 24, 2018
The village needs to be looked after  plenty of flight  subsidies for residents.
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Post by: Georgie on October 06, 2018
I have just found a really good all inclusive deal in December 19 at the be live experience playa arena

Has anyone stayed there before please
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Post by: lesleygee on October 06, 2018
My mum and her partner stayed there two years ago Georgie and loved it. We went and had a nosey round also and it's really nice. The main entrance is up the hill but a lift brings you down to the street at the bottom.
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Post by: pilgrim on October 06, 2018
They have a lot of building work going on there.
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Post by: lesleygee on October 06, 2018
Oh that's a shame I didn't know that. Is it actually going on in the Hotel.
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Post by: Georgie on October 06, 2018
Thanks for this information

Do you know what the food is like

Excellent review by trip advisor

Also thanks everyone for responding
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Post by: lesleygee on October 07, 2018
They said the food was lovely Georgie. There are lots of nice quiet seating areas also. It's well laid out. There was daytime entertainment at the pool. They used to model bikinis for sale. My mum said it was hilarious, the men appeared out of the woodwork to see it. She said rhe staff were all lovely too.
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Post by: Georgie on October 07, 2018
Thanks for the response

I have to locate it on Google but it is not clear

Where are they located

By the chemist ??
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Post by: lesleygee on October 07, 2018
Yes, across the road from the chemist. You can see the glass lift from the road. The sea views are lovely from the pool area.
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Post by: losjack on October 08, 2018
Wrong hotel LG. The Be Live used to be known as Costa Los Gigantes. Up cardiac hill to the Fisherwoman's, go straight across and the hotel is about 300 yards on the right. The one you are thinking of is Hotel de La Arena.
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Post by: blarer on October 08, 2018
Hotel Playa de la Arena is also part of the Be Live hotel chain.
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Post by: lesleygee on October 08, 2018
Oh god, you're absolutely right Blarer, sorry Georgie, my mum definitely stayed in Playa Arena Hotel across from the chemist. We've also had a nosey in the other one though when walking up to Mercadona. It looks lovely. Sorry, I'm an idiot.  :-[
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Post by: gaz on October 14, 2018
The building work is taking place outside where waterfall use to be ,not sure what they are doing. As there no security at the door I know of a few people who were not residents walk straight to the pool and spent a couple of hours there
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Post by: EllenandRichard on October 26, 2018
Hi

Not sure if it helps now but flights for this Christmas with Ryanair are very cheap at the moment - they have reduced in the last few weeks from around £300.  Even when you add priority boarding and reserved seats it is still very reasonable.
We are flying out on 21st and returning on 29th from East Mids for £135 all in.

Accommodation is always more expensive at Xmas but try Tenerife Holiday Apartments to see if they have any availability or look on Booking.com.

I understand the renting laws introduced in 2014 have now been revoked.
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Post by: Georgie on October 27, 2018
Coming out in December to el sombrero apartments which are really good

And just booked for December 2019 at 60 pounds cheaper for same deal so the prices are cheaper

Anyone had the same experience
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on October 27, 2018
Yes us too Georgie. We've booked a week at el sombrero in April very cheaply.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on October 28, 2018
April, May & June are the cheapest times in Tenerife
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: magsnmike on October 31, 2018
We are at Sombrero 29th December, got a great deal with Thomas Cook last January.  Georgie will you be there. 
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on October 31, 2018
We are going earlier and flying back on 22nd December for a family Christmas

We always go early December
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 07, 2018
Trip advisor are saying if you book on line at mayas indian restaurant they give you 40 percentage discount on Bill

Has anyone tried it before seems good value
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: gladys on November 07, 2018
I have heard good reports, however, we have just returned from the Barcelo and I have to say it was very empty most nights .
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 10, 2018
Just booked el sombrero March 2020 with thomas cook

Prices seem the same and stable so looking good
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 23, 2018
I know that I have posted this before but who is cheap and delivers to your apartments if you are late arriving
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on November 23, 2018
Georgie, you say you booked for March 2020. Looking at the people over here these couple of weeks, and I guess you may be in the same age category. I guess we can call you an optimist.
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Post by: Georgie on November 24, 2018
I am but funny enough people do moan in the apartments and on websites when they are in paradise

Can't understand
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: EllenandRichard on November 29, 2018
Good luck with Thomas Cook - news not great recently
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Post by: SandyLea on November 29, 2018
Our April visit to el sombrero is with Thomas Cook. Oh dear! Georgie, el sombrero is hardly paradise, just cheap basic clean apartments. We've been going to them about 10 years now and paradise is and never has been an accurate description!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on December 04, 2018
Booked again for 2020 and 150 pounds more expensive
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Post by: Georgie on December 23, 2018
When I say paradise you are only there to sleep and have breakfast

Are you mad

Don't know where you live but it is paradise to me

Crazy to keep questioning things

Open your mind

The value is very good and the supermarkets are cheap and high quality
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on January 23, 2019
Any cheap holiday deals or rental accommodation that are cheap or any restaurant deals please

Just looked and thinking about Lanzarote this year
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Edward Bear on January 23, 2019
Me thinks that we are on Los Gigantes.com not Lanzarote.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on January 24, 2019
Ok sorry xx
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on January 27, 2019
Is there any Improvement on pablado marieno apartments please

They are very cheap for a week in October 
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Post by: Georgie on January 30, 2019
Very interesting

Should you book in advance or wait for deals

I like to book in advance to relax but looking at websites about booking 2 weeks before you travel is a lot cheaper

What do you think
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Post by: linda on January 31, 2019
If it's flight only then early if package sometimes better closer
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Post by: Davymar on January 31, 2019
We book private accommodation and a flight separate. flights are cheap enough, but some of the private pads are booked up well in front, some have bookings for next Christmas already, never done a package for years and not likely to do again.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on January 31, 2019
Thanks for your responses

Pablado Marino on the harbour is great value via a good website I use but am concerned about the state of the apartments which due to the outlook is the best in los gigantes
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Post by: javars on February 02, 2019
We always stay at the Marina in privately owned appartments as some of the hotels own are feeling a bit shabby these days
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 02, 2019
Javars thanks for the information

Do you have any contact details or website please

Always been our favourite apartments
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: javars on February 04, 2019
Javars thanks for the information

Do you have any contact details or website please

Always been our favourite apartments

I use the Home and Away site and have also used Airbnb for LG
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 04, 2019
Never tried the home and away website or airbnb

I will take a look now

Thanks for the information
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Post by: Georgie on February 06, 2019
Very interesting that thompson have the harbour club this year and the prices are very reasonable

I might just book

Any comments would be appreciated

Sorry also see love drinking there but they always said it was timeshare ??
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Post by: linda on February 07, 2019
They've had an allocation there for couple of years now.
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Post by: Georgie on February 07, 2019
Thank you Linda

I will track the prices and see

Have you stayed in these apartments

We love the bar and entertainment
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Post by: linda on February 08, 2019
We have our own place in LG for the last 15 yes but friends have stayed and like them.go to listen to music sometimes.
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Post by: Georgie on February 14, 2019
Silly question

When they say block 2

Is that not in the main entertainment block but by el sombrero

Just trying to get where they are

Price is still reasonable
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Post by: Georgie on February 23, 2019
Thompson are selling the harbour club but over the road

Is this near el sombrero

It seems cheaper to book half board at the los gigantes tui hotel

Ant input would help
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Post by: SandyLea on February 23, 2019
Yes the harbour club apartments tui are selling are opposite and down a bit from el sombrero. The food in the sensimar hotel is very poor.
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Post by: VictorM on February 24, 2019
Sorry, Sandy Lea but the apts being let by TUI are ABOVE Sombrero approaching via Jose Gonzalez Forte, on the opposite side of the road and well before Sombrero.. They can also be accessed via aflight of stairs from Calle Pino.
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Post by: SandyLea on February 24, 2019
Oh ok Victor.  I had assumed it was the other ones as they are advertised on TUI website but when you try to book them, every single date in every month is unavailable.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 24, 2019
Any one stayed in them before

Also tui are offering large percentage discount for the hotel on line if anyone is interested
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on March 11, 2019
Bookings for 2020 are looking good for value

I was wondering what it will be after brexit

Not had a holiday in the UK for years
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on March 16, 2019
I was wondering what the euro rates have been this week at the exchange opposite the el sombrero please

We are out Friday to the north of the island
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Post by: VictorM on March 17, 2019
1.14
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Post by: Georgie on March 17, 2019
Thank you

Hopefully with brexit it will go to 2.00 per pound

Wishful thinking
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on April 04, 2019
1.17 to pound is good

Thompson prices are excellent at the moment

Just booked phase 2 harbour club and was reasonable
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on April 06, 2019
There are some good deals this year at el sombrero and harbour club 2 and the hotel los gigantes looks good

Pablado Marino are very cheap with booking separate flights

Are there any meal deals in local restaurant available
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Post by: Georgie on April 13, 2019
Thompson have great deals on harbour club and thomas cook with el sombrero

Jet2 does not cover los gigantes which is a shame

Travel republic have good rates for pablado mariero if anyone is interested
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Post by: magsnmike on April 14, 2019
Travel 28th December via 1st January. £1,000 price difference. El Sombrero, Thomas Cook.  There has always been a discrepancy but this is outrageous. Needless to say we are travelling 1st January. 
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Post by: Georgie on April 15, 2019
That is a big difference

Can or do you book direct rather than via a agent like thompson or t cook
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Post by: Pete on April 15, 2019
Jet2 do El Sombrero
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: magsnmike on April 16, 2019
We have booked with Thomas Cook as a package, as it was the cheapest of all options on this occasion.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on April 16, 2019
I thought only thomas cook decent to el sombrero

I will check and hopefully they do
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Post by: SandyLea on April 16, 2019
Jet2 definitely got el sombrero.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on April 18, 2019
Sorry but could not find it on there but it would be great if it was

Can u send me the search criteria please
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Post by: Davymar on April 18, 2019
Georgie, it took me 25 seconds to find it!
https://www.jet2holidays.com/canary-islands/tenerife/los-gigantes/el-sombrero (https://www.jet2holidays.com/canary-islands/tenerife/los-gigantes/el-sombrero)
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Post by: Georgie on April 18, 2019
Cheers I will try again

Booked the harbour club for a change thought they were all timeshare  that could not be rented
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on April 18, 2019
The reason why I could not find it was because I was looking at October

It was not on there but it was for December

Cheers
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 06, 2019
Travel republic are doing great deals especially in pablado mariero apartments

Always been my favourite

Are they being 're decorated please
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Edward Bear on May 06, 2019
Georgie is this place anywhere near Poblado Marinero the one that has always been your favourite.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 19, 2019
I have booked el sombrero with thomas cook for next March 2020

Paid a deposit and more

Should I be worried

Any advice would help if you have experience this before
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Edward Bear on May 19, 2019
Georgie, my cousin stayed at El Sombrero and thoroughly enjoyed her stay there. I am no expert however I think that Thomas Cook will survive.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on May 19, 2019
The only person that will survive is Gloria Gaynor! I would not be booking with Thomas Cooke, I have suffered more delays with them than anyone else! their future is bleak.   good luck Georgie :)
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on May 20, 2019
Is it possible to book el sombero direct?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on May 20, 2019
Yes, we have booked Sombrero direct, although it was a few years back, we now book a private pad and a flight separately.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 20, 2019
I agree that thomas cook should survive but remember my friends at monarch

We loved monarch from Luton

Outside the airport was a bit of a mess though
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on May 20, 2019
Ah, Monarch! Wonderful memories - morning paper as you boarded, welcome aboard, lovely crew, even accommodated our piano for a mere £60 to get it to our home in Tenerife. Wonderful memories, but sadly no more.
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Post by: janey on May 21, 2019
Ah, Monarch! Wonderful memories - morning paper as you boarded, welcome aboard, lovely crew, even accommodated our piano for a mere £60 to get it to our home in Tenerife. Wonderful memories, but sadly no more.
  not surprising they went bumpity bump.  was your flight seat only £30 each way too?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on May 21, 2019
Ah, Monarch! Wonderful memories - morning paper as you boarded, welcome aboard, lovely crew, even accommodated our piano for a mere £60 to get it to our home in Tenerife. Wonderful memories, but sadly no more.
  not surprising they went bumpity bump.  was your flight seat only £30 each way too?
The piano was £60 one way! Our seats were substantially more!!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 21, 2019
Can't remember the cost of the flight seat but the service was exceptional

Memories

Mind you jet2 from stansted are very good also
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on May 22, 2019
We have a choice of 2 airlines from our local airports, Ryanair and I must say we have travelled with them many times and have never had a problem ( sounds like we must be very lucky ) the other airline is Jet2 again very good service but i wish they would stop playing that bloody advert and music all through the flight.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on May 22, 2019
[quoteWe have a choice of 2 airlines from our local airports, Ryanair and I must say we have travelled with them many times and have never had a problem ( sounds like we must be very lucky ) the other airline is Jet2 again very good service but i wish they would stop playing that bloody advert and music all through the flight.][/quote]

  We don't use Ryanair on principle (each to their own) we tend to use Sleazyjet or Jet2, Jet2 is very good boarding, but i have to agree about that follow my arse advert music, in fact the music and announcements in flight are both annoying and childish, it spoils what is a decent flight, we fly from Manchester and have a good choice of cheap flights, we chose an early departure, departing and returning if possible.
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Post by: Mary on May 22, 2019
We have flown with Jet2 since the airline first started at our local airport over twelve years ago. They are always our first choice. Often itís a few pounds more but we feel itís worth it for the better service. I do agree about the annoying music/adverts though, itís very irritating but a couple of gins usually helps with that.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on May 22, 2019
I have booked el sombrero with thomas cook for next March 2020

Paid a deposit and more

Should I be worried

Any advice would help if you have experience this before
Thomas Cook are in a spot of bother!
http://www.ekathimerini.com/240697/article/ekathimerini/business/thomas-cook-asks-hoteliers-for-price-cuts (http://www.ekathimerini.com/240697/article/ekathimerini/business/thomas-cook-asks-hoteliers-for-price-cuts)
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 22, 2019
Thanks for the update

Does your atol certificate cover everything

Anyone had that experience before please
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 23, 2019
Any good deals going around in the local restaurants

And how is the local euro rate against sterling
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on May 23, 2019
Yes, restaurant Blue Martine in Playa Arena fixed 3 course menu 10.90 E.  Had it tonight, food slow coming out, but happy with that. So a little space after starters.
Surprisingly good. starters include prawn, soup , mussels etc. Mains Steak, pork, Sea bass etc..
Pudding Ice cream, coffee etc..

So 2 people, 2 pints of Dorado, 1/2 L Sangria, bottle of still water. Bill was 34 E without tip.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 31, 2019
What is the local euro rate like please
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 31, 2019
Never used airbnb but is it cheaper and any location tips please
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: linda on June 02, 2019
1.1
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Post by: Georgie on June 03, 2019
Thank you

Do you mean 100 percent and use them

I thought you cannot hire out property without a tourist licrnce
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 05, 2019
Is pablado mariero being upgraded  and dolly is the work complete on the lido please

Love those apartments but not been there for a few years
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Dolly Diver on June 05, 2019
The lido is closed and there is no sign of any work starting. 
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 13, 2019
Any good meal deals in local restaurants going please like the el pescador lovely value fish plater
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 21, 2019
I know I will get killed for this post but just booked playa Blanca with jet2 and it was very reasonable and flying from stansted 4
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on June 21, 2019
?????????????????????????????????? WHEN
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 21, 2019
December before Xmas and cancelled los gigantes in October

Staying in the lovely hotel volcan by marina rubicon

Bulgaria in October

Have you ever been to Lanzarote it's lovely

The website for chatting is lovely
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on July 21, 2019
Georgie, I have told you before, we have stayed at Lanzarote many times, I know the Volcan, I like Rubicon but Playa Blanca is a bit over the top, they have ruined it, we prefer to stay at Puerto del Carmen, but in the old town in front of the harbour, we do not book a package, we book flights and private accommodation, this applies to Los Gigs as well, we are out in Los Gigs in March 2020.
please let us know when you go to Bulgaria, is it still cheap, where should we eat, do they do take away, has any new restaurants open, are there any new shops, are there any Brits still there who bought property cheap and can't sell it for love or money! ;D
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on July 21, 2019
Your reply took a month, you seem to book everything on price. If you think Tony's frozen fish is good you must try some better restaurants.

Lanzarote is a rock, very few trees loads of lava all over the island and an excuse for a mountain with a little water spout.

Have you hit their web site in such a short time as this one, I must not look it would depress me. 
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Post by: Edward Bear on July 21, 2019
Amen.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 27, 2019
With all the work going on in the local area who pays for it

Does it come out of the local council tax or tax on restaurant
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Edward Bear on July 27, 2019
georgie, it's not rocket science it comes from the funds of Santiago del Teide and possibly from central government and maybe EU. Does it matter to you a visitor !
Now stop asking silly bloody questions.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 29, 2019
 Edward do you post after a few gin and tonics or are you just bored with LG

Shame really I used to appreciate your joke section
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: blarer on July 29, 2019
The village idiot's back.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: frogeddy on July 29, 2019
Blarer ... it's not nice to call Mr Bear a village idiot ...
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: blarer on July 29, 2019
I wasn't referring to Mr Bear and I think you know that.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 30, 2019
Excellent response

Surely you have to live in the village to claim such a prize

I am currently in essex

Please explain
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Edward Bear on July 30, 2019
georgie, as a matter of fact you moron I am TT.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on July 30, 2019
Sorry Edward, you have lost me, what does TT mean?
Just realised while typing this! Tea total!
Well good for you, I think my wife would like me to - lets say cut down.
She said I get to miserable without the drink! so a little would be better.
Were you an alcoholic prior to quitting.
Living in LG without a drink must be hard. I can sure see why you don't go out to bars or restaurants!

Good luck Edward.
I will toast that - cheers!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: blarer on July 31, 2019
Ok Georgie not the village idiot, moron fits you much better.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on July 31, 2019
I did not know Essex was a village !!!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on October 09, 2019
Jet2 package is very reasonable

Booked for march el sombrero
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Sangriaman on October 09, 2019
Hey Georgie , I hear jet 2 are doing some cracking deals for Syria, you should give it a go and report back.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on October 10, 2019
Why o why

Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: frogeddy on October 10, 2019
Sangriaman .....just when it seemed that this site was progressing in a decent civil manner without controversy, along you come with the most moronic, nasty and unnecessary comment possible..... you should, after some reflection feel ashamed ...... but I doubt if you are capable of such meaningful reflection ..
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on October 11, 2019
I have to agree with Frogeddy, for someone with only six posts to attack Georgie like that is well out of order, there was simply no need for it!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Sangriaman on October 11, 2019
Whether I have six or six hundred posts ,Georgie is a Wittering Fool and the opinions of two old Handbags like you will not make me change my opinion.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: linda on October 11, 2019
Didn't think that was necessary sangria man .
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: blarer on October 12, 2019
Maybe not necessary, but spot on.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on October 27, 2019
Booked el sombrero with jet2

They must have taken Thomas cook bookings and the package was competitive

And bulgaria was excellent like old time Greece
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: TimO on November 06, 2019
Just to add a little snippet of information to the discussion? Why don't you try booking apartments in the area of the three villages? That's what the wife and I have been doing ever since we started coming out to the area in 2010? We've stayed in all three villages during the years and we are just after booking another apartment for our next sojourn that's coming up in the new year? We eat in for breakfast and lunch and in the evening we go and have dinner in some of the local restaurants and we find it's cheap enough to live that way? You have both Lidl and Mercadona nearby, so, what's the problem?

I am an OAP and the wife will become an OAP at the beginning of March 2020 and we can still afford to come out to the LG, PDS and PdLA area every year. Okay, the OAP is a little bit better over here in the ROI than it is in the UK, but we still come out each year.

Might I suggest that you book your flights and accommodation well in advance, say 6 months or more and then you  might be able to come across more bargains accommodation wise as well as flight wise. Just remember the old ditty that it pays to shop around?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 09, 2019
Any cheap holidays for December 2020 that you can recommend

It will be our first time over the xmas period
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Edward Bear on November 09, 2019
You may be dead by then georgie.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 10, 2019
Hope not Edward but who knows

Again el sombrero is the cheapest over xmas with jet2

Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: TimO on November 11, 2019
Where would you be flying from and how long would you be staying for?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 15, 2019
Flying from any london airport

Do you know anywhere please and only 7 days
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: TimO on November 15, 2019
Georgie, might I suggest that you have a look on the Airbnb, Tripadvisor, Homestogo, holidaylettings websites for a start and see what's available for the dates you're interested in, but if you're definitely interested in looking to go over the Xmas period then you're definitely going to be paying over the odds for a rental, which would only to be expected considering the time of year you're going. Going over in the New Year would be a lot smarter period for you to go and it would be a lot cheaper too!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 16, 2019
Those sites rent property at a stupid price any time of the year, and most of them are still breaking the law

I have booked luxury 2bed 2bath townhouse over 300,sq mt fantastic views, heated pool & very private £320.00 a week and I know it is like this because i viewed it in October when we were over there, the deal was so good we have decided to stay for 3 months

It is about time owners realized that Tourism is going down over there and if the want to continue renting their properties without the Hotel lobby pushing the Government into doing what they did in 2010/11 and start fining renters again.

It does not matter what people or sites say unless your property is on a Tourist complex and rented through the sole agent in that complex it is illegal, the only change is Independent villas built on Tourist land may rent
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: linda on November 23, 2019
Not exactly apartments can apply for a touristic licence obviously then paying legitimate taxes etc
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 23, 2019
Who would be stupid enough to buy a place that you can not rent out

Unless you are 110 percent sure you want to spend the rest of your life there
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on November 23, 2019
Who would be stupid enough to buy a place that you can not rent out

Unless you are 110 percent sure you want to spend the rest of your life there

ME! I love our second home here and it is just that - our second home. Whatís stupid about that?????
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on November 24, 2019
thanks for letting me know Georgie I didnít realise I was stupid
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on November 24, 2019
If I were lucky enough to have a second home in lg one day, I'd never ever want to rent it out. People may disrespect it, scuff the paintwork, leave it filthy etc and it'd break my heart.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 24, 2019
Linda can you tell me anybody that has got an individual Tourist licence, the small complex that I owned an apartment in was only 63 apartments fully Touristic built 50/50 outright owners & timeshare 24 hour reception built on Tourist land it has taken approx 6 years & tens of thousands of pounds to obtain a licence and 90% of the owners were fined even if they never let their apartment & some of us never got their Ä18000.00 back.

If you think the Hotel lobby & the Government once the Tourist figures start to fall like they are now will not hesitate to obtain money any way they can including fining anybody who is illegaly renting you are kidding yourself.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: AWOL on November 24, 2019
Well further to ! You know who's comment◊◊◊◊◊  sitting here looking out at La Gomera in my teeshirt/shorts in the sunshine at 9am I am more then happpy with my decision to buy here and certainly would not want to let to anybody who may spoil it in anyway .

Stupid I think NOT.

AWOL
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Sangriaman on November 24, 2019
           
      As far as Georgie is concerned,,,,

(Who would be stupid enough to buy a place that you can not rent out

Unless you are 110 percent sure you want to spend the rest of your life ther)

      Empty vessels really do make the most sound....
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: linda on November 24, 2019
We have our place for 15 years now and wouldn't rent to anyone as we can come and go when we want .Very lucky
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 24, 2019
Only 15 years ?, we used to let a couple of friends have ours if we were not there, pity you could not tell us who had obtained a licence for renting their apartment. IT IS STILL ILLEGAL 
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on November 24, 2019
Unhappy, don't take this as a personal pop at you, i am merely joining in the conversation, i have no doubt you are right regarding the legality of letting out property without a tourist licence, but the fact of the matter is this, we have been renting in los gigs for holidays for donkeys years, we tend to book private apartments, we pick and chose what suits us, we like peace and a reasonable amount of privacy, we have had no problem whatsoever in booking apartments, you only have to look on booking .com, holiday lettings etc, there are plenty of places to chose from, most are quite open about displaying their rental properties, so, either the laws have been relaxed, the local authorities cannot be bothered, or a combination of both, we started off with a package holiday and then moved onto flight only and book a pad privately, it suits our requirements, long may it carry on, los gigs certainly needs more footfall and people spending money, otherwise the decline will happen.   
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: TimO on November 24, 2019
I couldn't agree more with you, Davymar! My wife and I have been renting apartments in all three of the villages since we started going over to the LG/PdS and PDLA area in the winter of 2010 and during that time we've seen prices fluctuate greatly. Some of the prices quoted are quite literally scandalous on some of the sites, but I do understand the reasons why this happens, but then again on having mentioned that the differential in rental rates for one or two-bedroomed apartments in the three village area needs to be seen to be believed!!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Mary on November 24, 2019
there are several property rentals stating that they have a VV license and can therefore legally let, even in a complex such as Tamara.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 25, 2019
Everybody thinks I am having a pop at renters all I can say is yes a little they are asking to much money and some times it is crap accommodation.

We have been coming to this area for over 30 years initially renting we then purchased over the years 2 apartments, our second homes in the sun. The last one was in a brand new complex which was being sold by the British Estate Agent & everybody was told they could rent. Because of the way we were treated we sold our property and now rent

Some owners rented some did not, then the crash came and the powers that be fined almost everybody and don't think just because you are a large organization you wont be fined our Developer said they would never take on RCI, he was wrong they fined him Ä60.000.00. which he paid

As I have stated before we were wrongly accused of renting with a Spanish Company who we had never heard of let alone rent with them it cost us Ä18000.00 and were not allowed to appeal. Don't think the courts overseas operate the same as in the UK.

The Government also stated that these companies that renters used will also be not above the law, that's why most of them stopped at that time advertising properties. It has been boom time for overseas holidays but with almost every Country in Europe now in recession holiday bookings have dropped, in Tenerife the last 2 years have been bad, we were over in October and we had never seen it so quite.

All I am trying to say to renters, I have been there It is not very nice and when the cash stops coming into the Hotels they will blame you and like 2010/11 they will put pressure on the Government to act again, this time they will make sure they do not have to give people any money back.
   
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Tanemera on November 25, 2019
My understanding is that it Is now possible to obtain an individual property tourist license and advertise on sites such as AirB&B. This was confirmed by one of the service agencies in LG when I commented that we were seeing different people using our shared pool every week. I understand that several communities are holding EGM's to address the problem. Our problem here is that we are not a formal "Community" so there is nothing we can do about it.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Mary on November 25, 2019
I think we are talking about the same thing here Tanemera, there is a mention on Janet Anscombes site, as I said above itís called a V V license and allows individuals to rent out their property. Or at least that appears to be the case, however I will no doubt be corrected if Iím wrong.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: linda on November 26, 2019
That is what I was talking about some  are up for sale advertising it with this licence
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 26, 2019
Checked Airbnb and they have quite a lot of rentals advertised

Does airbnb have a checking process to see if the renters have a licence
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on November 26, 2019
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Checked Airbnb and they have quite a lot of rentals advertised

Does airbnb have a checking process to see if the renters have a licence

NO!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: London on November 27, 2019
Having attended an EGM last week and listened to our Administrators it seems.
The law was changed in March to allow letting if you have a VV licence. Ours and it seems other Communities considered themselves as a Residential Community but had not had this registered at the ďLand RegistryĒ therefore enabling any owner to apply for a letting permit between March and the holding of the EGM.
There is nothing the Community can do if this licence has been granted other than make a 20% surcharge on the quarterly account, although this is a little unclear at the moment when this will start.
Apparently the applicants are issued a licence number and they will have to conform to taxation, safety checks and other official bits.
As a community we have no way of knowing at the moment who has or hasnít applied, there is no obligation on the owner to inform the Community and at the moment the only way we may be able to find out who is registered is via the Tourist Board.
With so many unanswered questions we have asked our Administrators to clarify as soon as possible.
No doubt all this will be ďrubbishedĒ by the usual contributors but thought it may prove useful to someone out there.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on November 27, 2019
London - Thank you for posting that information. Personally Iím really disappointed that owners in residential complexes can now apply and get a licence to do short term renting, it doesnít seem fair to all the other owners who specifically bought in a residential complex. When you get any more information will you add it please.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: London on November 27, 2019
CS It seems the devil is in the detail and theses items are pretty obscure to the majority of purchasers. I for one wrongly assumed a Community which claimed to be Residential had covered itself by being registered everywhere it should have many years prio4 to me buying! Hey ho, will post any further info if and when it transpires.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 27, 2019
London, thank you for your input as you have said the devil is in the detail & if you read my post you will see how difficult it is for anybody to obtain a licence & that was for a complex built on Tourist designated land & the time & cost would be prohibitive for an individual.

On any complex should you want to change anything you need the permission of the community how is an individual going to afford it to satisfy the department who issue licences that the fire precautions, pool, including lifeguard are of the correct safety standard, my previous complex which was only built in 2000 had to install a new water supply, fenced pool and 24 hour reception just to start with.

People keep saying you can get this VV licence can anybody tell me who has got one
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: London on November 27, 2019
Unhappy.  I posted the information as I was at the EGM and rightly or wrongly assumed that the information given by both the Administrator and their Legal representative would be accurate.
Having read your post it seems as likely now to get decent information as it was when you purchased.
No one involved with the Administrators could tell us how we could find out if a resident who lets had a licence, we are to presume that they would and therefore levy accordingly.
By the same assumption perhaps as the law has been changed a full 360 degrees maybe the criteria to get a licence will be changed.
Throughout this post you will notice the use of the words assume, presume and maybe.
Probably the only certainty is that this will not be the last we hear of this mess with the hoteliers etc looking on
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 27, 2019
Davymar

THANK YOU FOR YOUR POSITIVE FEEDBACK

the others on this site are giving very formative feedback to help others
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 28, 2019
London, I might have a little information that may help you, when the Government rushed through the new letting laws in March there were certain clauses they installed, and I am surprised your President or Administrator did not inform you of them.

All complexes come under the law of Horizontal Ownership, as a community you can vote on anybody who wants to rent their property and if you have a 3/5 majority you can stop that person letting, it is correct that you can surcharge a letting owner a extra 20% of community costs also any owner letting must pay 24% tax on the letting fee and you are not allowed to off set this with any costs.

Also just go to the town hall and ask for a list of anybody who has applied for a licence in your complex anybody can do this you will then know who is seeking to obtain a licence.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: London on November 28, 2019
Unhappy. Thanks for that info, it is very useful and I will use it at our forthcoming AGM.
Almost like quite a few years ago where this site was a very useful source of information.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on December 14, 2019
If you are staying over xmas what is the value either resort orsupermarkets
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on December 14, 2019
Pardon? In English please Georgie.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on January 24, 2020
The travel costs for apartments look reasonable this year

Booking through a holiday company or should we use airbnb

Any positive feedback would be appreciated
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 25, 2020
I know that this is a sad post what with the newspapers talking about the virus in adgeje will this force down prices but put up holiday insurance
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 26, 2020
What is the local view about the virus in adele
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on February 26, 2020
I am glad I am not in Adeje and not in a Hotel!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 26, 2020
I am not worried as such and hopefully,coming out in April but the flights have so many cold and stomach issues

Should we wear a face marks while drinking wine
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on February 26, 2020
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[Should we wear a face marks while drinking wine/quote]

Yes, but don't forget to make a hole for the straw!

Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Sangriaman on February 27, 2020
Georgie and Davymar , looks like you are setting yourselves up as the forums comedy duo !!! But Iím having trouble working out which of you is the Fool and which is the Straight man ???? Not so much The Chuckle Brothers more like Dumb and Dumber.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on February 27, 2020
We use First Defence nasal spray before flights and before going to busy places like concerts. It seems to work very well at preventing colds. No idea it it works for corvid-19 though.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on February 27, 2020
Georgie and Davymar , looks like you are setting yourselves up as the forums comedy duo !!! But Iím having trouble working out which of you is the Fool and which is the Straight man ???? Not so much The Chuckle Brothers more like Dumb and Dumber.
No doubt about your credentials, you are miserable! every forum has a Mr misery, you fit the bill, lighten up!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Sangriaman on February 27, 2020
Like most normal people I find no amusement in large scale public health threats , especially when you consider who is most at risk : the very young and the elderly. I also take no pleasure from hearing that peopleís holidays will be ruined by this outbreak either. Interestingly there is no mention of the Vacuous or the Slow witted being especially at risk from this Virus : so Davymar and Georgie you should both be safe for now .
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on February 27, 2020
We will be out there next week, are we worried? not at all, so wind your neck in and get a life, and stop moaning, this board is meant to be lighthearted.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on February 27, 2020
I think it is a good thing you are coming to LG, people are not going into Las Americas area. The Italian chap who is infected, had been on holiday for 6 days before being isolated. Hope he didn't take a trip to see the cliffs!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on February 27, 2020
I think it is a good thing you are coming to LG, people are not going into Las Americas area. The Italian chap who is infected, had been on holiday for 6 days before being isolated. Hope he didn't take a trip to see the cliffs!

I think the main possible worry, are the flights returning to the UK, will you be sharing a flight with those who have been under quarantine? ie, the ones who they have yet to fly home, no one seems to know when they will get sent home, i noticed on the news that one family had attempted to escape, but they were caught, this could be more of a problem i suppose.
We have every intention of enjoying our holiday, as we always do, there is nothing we can do about it :)
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on February 27, 2020
If it spreads the way it has in North Italy, and I pray it does not. It could be terrible for the Island. The Uk and other governments will stop flights coming out. And you can't blame them. Were home next week, and am pleased. Which is not usually the case!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on February 27, 2020
Too much panic. The virus gives milder symptoms than flu. Only 2 per cent of people who've had the virus have died and they've all been very old and had pre existing medical conditions. Lots of people who test positive, have no symptoms at all. The media love to inspire mass panic.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 27, 2020
This post is by dumber

I think it is bad but no worse than a type of flu

I travel to the city by tube and the headline in the standard was don't stand close to people

Joke have anyone been on the tube

Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on February 27, 2020
Walked to the Pharmacy in Puerto Santiago and the lady serving us coughed in our faces.

Spoke to a couple of strangers at the Mirador and one of them coughed.

Walked along the path between Crab Island and Tipsy Terrace and a lady ahead of us was coughing!

Hurried back to our apartment for a shot of first defence! Starting to get paranoid.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 27, 2020
Is first defence scotch

Is everyone over reacting because of the press or do we all have a real problem
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on February 27, 2020
Is first defence scotch

Is everyone over reacting because of the press or do we all have a real problem

Georgie, I hope Scotch is not first line defence, i hate the stuff!  I find a Large Southern Comfort acceptable ;D

The press are loving it, its easy news, makes a change from some reality tv wannabe.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 27, 2020
I agree about scotch I dont get on with it but my sons love it

Gin and tonic or rum and coke for me

In my younger days I think I had pernod and lemonade  but cant remember
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 27, 2020
Sorry but bringing back memories my first holiday was in ibiza in the 70s on dan air and when we took off we went to the back of the plane to smoke

Happy days x
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on February 27, 2020
I really don't think it is a joke! I am usually pretty relaxed about these things. But am somehow concerned
this time. After the first world war there was a pandemic, 17 million died! They called it rather unfairly "Spanish Flu". The world then was not as intergrated, and it still spread. I read that off today there are 3000 deaths recorded. These things can multiply expendiatley (I can't spell). At the moment there is no vaccine!
Top 3 things to wipe us out are -
1, Pandemic
2, Meteor strike
3, MAD   Nuclear War
4, Charlie's Bistro  (only kidding, it's a great place)
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: janey on February 28, 2020



                                                   CALM DOWN      ITS ONLY FLU
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on February 28, 2020
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Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on February 28, 2020
Everyone is worried but I cant get my head around more people die of flu or is this the press

Anyone flew lately to tenerife and the cabin crew have masks on which according to the daily mail is like having a chocolate teapot
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on February 28, 2020
If it is Lyan Air or Sqeezy Jet masks are good! BA don't need them, generally a better looking bunch.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on March 01, 2020
Is it the press or worse than this

What are the local medical people saying

Today was the first person in essex diagnosed
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on March 02, 2020
Hope your not coming out here then Georgie
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on March 02, 2020
Pilgrim I love you

Not sure and confused what is going on

I have my finger on the button for 1st April to book and the family are saying no but I travel Ún the tube every day
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on March 02, 2020
So far it doesn't seem to have spread outside the H10 hotel in Costa Adeje.

I think the most dangerous part is flying with a plane load of brits as there are more cases there than here.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on March 03, 2020
I agree because we have picked up cold and stomach infections

I travel on the tube every day

Friends have flew recently and around 50 percent of passengers have a mask on
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on March 03, 2020
Simple masks are useless for preventing the wearer from catching a virus. Surgical masks are to stop the wearer from infecting the patient, not the other way around. For that you need a proper hasmat suit.

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0X-JYGxuIc
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on March 03, 2020
Blimey does Amazon do them and also in xxxl size
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on March 04, 2020
Joking aside are any planes being cancelled to and from tenerife
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on March 04, 2020
Possibly because of low take up rather than any ban on travelling.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on March 05, 2020
I was looking to come out end March depending on work commitments

The price of the tui los gigantes hotel on 1st april is very good value
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Samijoe on March 05, 2020
We have flights booked for late April. Unless Jet2 cancel the flight we will still travel. Would rather get to LG and not be able to fly home than miss our first trip of this year. Hopefully all the panic and scare mongering will have reduced by then.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on March 05, 2020
I agree

I would rather be in los gigantes than on the tube in London

Will you wear face masks on the flights
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Samijoe on March 05, 2020
No face masks - according to experts they are useless. Totally ridiculous in my humble opinion. Will wipe down the things we touch around airport and plane. I will be the one with the marigolds and packs of cleaning wipes. I do that anyway regardless of Corona  ;)
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on April 25, 2020
Hopefully after all this crisis there are some restaurants that will stay open of which we will have to support

Is there any local news about this sad situation
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on April 25, 2020
Georgie, don't get your hopes up like many Countries there are a lot of businesses that will never reopen.

Here in Tenerife the Canarian Government have written off 2020 for tourists and the total lockdown continues until 10th of May, the only relaxation children under 14 are now allowed out for 1 hour a day with 1 parent, people in the UK have no idea what a lockdown is.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: el presidente on April 25, 2020
Well said Unhappy
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on April 26, 2020
Well said and how strange everything is
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 02, 2020
I hope some of our best places re open

Harbour club
La pergola
Green corner

Good luck to them
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 16, 2020
Silly question from me

Having booked a deposit for December in el sombrero

I have not looked at the insurance premium

Hopefully it won't rocket skywards
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on May 17, 2020
Georgie, are you saying you have booked and not taken out any Insurance for the holiday, if that is correct you are a little silly.

When you book a holiday you should take out Insurance at the same time, not when you go, the reason is simple. You book for December, you fall ill in November you are unable to go, you have not taken out Insurance you lose your money.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Samijoe on May 17, 2020
For most people, if you have 2 or more holidays a year, annual policies are better value. Ours runs out mid September, when we are hoping to be in LG. Expecting quite a hike in price, but itís worth it. Perhaps Georgie is referring to an annual Policy ?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 17, 2020
I have annual insurance which runs out in October and obviously will be renewing it but was wondering if the cost will rocket
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 29, 2020
Still have my deposit with jet2 paid for December

If this covid 19 goes away by then and there are no restrictions then prices will rocket

A bit of demand and supply
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on May 29, 2020
I recently spoke to the company we have our annual insurance policy with, we renew at the end of September, they said as long as we renew and as long as the FCO are no longer advising against all but essential travel to anywhere, for anything we booked pre March 2020, regardless of when it was for, we would be covered for covid19 but anything booked after March 2020 we would not
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on May 30, 2020
I was wondering who has booked for xmas and what were prices like

I have paid a deposit

Then I read about the lanzarote flight

What do you think
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: linda on May 31, 2020
Ok as someone who is still here because flights have been cancelled but am happier here.Decision you make what is right for you we need to get back to UK by september.hope will be safer by then. But as a example Santiago del Teide has registered 12k people since start we have had 10 cases to deaths and have been completely clear  now.Uk in our area 2k and 19 deaths you all decide
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on May 31, 2020
Will you end up going over 183 days and have to pay Spanish tax? I would sooner take my chances with Covid19!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on May 31, 2020
Nophead - now youíve truly shown your lack of knowledge! Your credibility has plummeted Iím afraid. Read the facts before you comment further please
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on May 31, 2020
The last I read was the Spanish were being lobbied to make an exception for people trapped by Covid19 but I haven't heard it has been granted. Has it now?

https://www.janetanscombe.com/news/financial-and-fiscal-advice-in-the-estado-de-alarma.html
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 01, 2020
Let's all go to Bulgaria xx no restrictions there

Sunny beach resort
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 02, 2020
Post office insurance have quoted me 5 pounds more than last year so no real change

Interesting
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: blarer on June 02, 2020
Is Covid19 covered ?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 02, 2020
No but sarcasm drinking problems and trying to give up smoking are covered

Sorry 🤣
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 02, 2020
Never mentioned
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 03, 2020
I see that the board viewing has gone up from 15 to 75 posted

That is good for the local community
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 06, 2020
Does anyone know if the harbour club is open and do they have social distancing

Cannot wait to get back there
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: VictorM on June 07, 2020
The Harbour Club is not open.  However, the Wine Bar and Terrace - the normal evening facility - is open from 10.00 - 22.00 Mondays to Fridays.  No tables inside, social distancing and all hygiene rules, e.g.sanitisers, are strictly enforced and adhered to.  There is a one-way traffic system operating.  Run by Dodi and usually two waitresses, coffee, breakfasts, light meals and a evening menu are all available.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 07, 2020
Thank you for the update

Hopefully all will be ok in a month or two
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 12, 2020
Do we know if any restaurant and bars are open please

Fingers crossed
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Dolly Diver on June 13, 2020
There a quite a few bars and restaurants open now in Los Gigantes.

In the marina:-
Karl & Val
Raffas
Santa Maria

In the village:-
Charlis Bistro
Jardin del Sol
Asturias
Green Corner
Bar Sangria
Wine bar at the Harbour Club

Nothing is open by the Barcello Santiago and Tamaimo Tropical

Many are open in the old part of Purto Santiago and Playa Arena
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on June 13, 2020
Can you share a table normally with friends from another household or do you need to keep 2m apart?
 
There seems to be multiple interpretations of this rule.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 13, 2020
Thanks dolly

What do you think about our holiday in December being safe please
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on June 13, 2020
If you are not too busy, could you tell me what the winning lottery numbers will be for next week please.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on June 14, 2020
If youíre in no rush I can tell you by next Saturday
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: AWOL on June 14, 2020
I am also looking for a piece of string. Can Dolly tell me what length I should buy please?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 15, 2020
Do I book for October or wait

What is everyone doing xx
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on June 15, 2020
We are waiting to see how the airlines adapt for future flights! But really need to get out soon as things to sort!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 16, 2020
I wish you luck and please let me know how you get on

My wife said let's go to Cornwall or Weymouth for a holiday

It's cheaper to go to los gigantes xx
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Sangriaman on June 16, 2020
Do I book for October or wait

What is everyone doing xx



 I suspect everyone is waiting to see where you are travelling to, and then heading in the opposite direction 😀
 
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 17, 2020
How lovely

Anyway just booked el sombrero for October so fingers crossed

On a early post if you are going in the opposite direction to where I book then los gigantes will become more sophisticated xx
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on June 30, 2020
All paid up with jet el sombrero in October and insurance paid

So fingers crossed and the cost was very reasonable
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 03, 2020
Thank God I booked a deposit for October the price is rising xx
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on July 03, 2020
Georgie, be careful you will get that MORON Sangriman posting and insulting you again, his IQ must be scraping his arse along the gutter.

Not bad for me, the posh guy, that came from a Council Estate, went to a Secondary Mod School, ( yes I failed my 11+ ), but then went on to become a VERY successful business man.

MORON STOP INSULTING EVERYBODY YOU POST ABOUT, and try, although it might be difficult, posting something that could be Informative or Interesting on this site.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 03, 2020
Sorry unhappy xx I will try harder next time  xx
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 03, 2020
Yes air fares seem to be rising back to normal levels as well. We booked for about £25 each in each direction with EasyJet for November at the start of lockdown. The same dates are now a lot more expensive.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on July 03, 2020
Yes, we are hopeful of a quick return to old days! Not looking at flights yet, but will do! When we find the
new flight rules! As long as the virus is down!
Can u believe the Virus in Lambeth - Brixton is the lowest in the country!
Am pleased to hear it. Crazy when you hear less busy places like the Midlands are in Lockdown.
Strange times.
Hope to be out in the early winter.
Council house guy from Brixton and Wife also. Unhappy! But we move on and get on and don't moan!!!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 03, 2020
Spain have legislated that the "new normal" rules, 1.5m distancing and masks, are until a cure or a vaccine, so I doubt they will change this year unless they change their minds and the law.

We normally have friends over to stay with us when in Tenerife but since they are not from the same household I don't think it would be allowed or perhaps would if we social distance indoors, which is bonkers if they stay a week or two.  Similar rules here but the police can't enforce it.

At least in Sweden I could go to the pub with a couple of mates, but three is the limit, so not even two couples. The world has gone mad.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 04, 2020
Definitely not going to our local pub for a few weeks yet

Even told my sons not to go

But Iam tested to go for an Indian locally though
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on July 04, 2020
Think the pub maybe safer than the Indian!
My wife now refuses to eat Chinese, I miss it!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 04, 2020
Why not Chinese? It's not like they are personally responsible or more liekly to have it.

Will proably go to our local mid week if it is open and not too much nonsense like having to book.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 05, 2020
I miss the Chinese opposite el sombrero not excellent but satisfying

Never tried the little one down the road any good

Sometimes you need sweet and sour chicken balls now and again
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 05, 2020
Never got to try that one or its replacement. I can recommned Palillos De Oro in La Arena if it survives the lockdown but it is quite a walk from el sombrero. We are more or less equidistant.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on July 05, 2020
Did you catch Gok Wan on This Morning doing cookery demonstration ? His father, is Hong Kong born, Chinese. He came to the the UK, married a British lady and they opened a restaurant. Gok Wan said he often cooked in his parentís restaurant. In the last couple of weeks heís demonstrated sweet and sour chicken and lemon chicken. If you didnít see it Iíd recommend googling for the recipes. Both are really simply any really really tasty. Add a pot of egg fried rice and a packet of spring rolls from any supermarket and youíll end up with a really nice Chinese meal in the comfort of your own home.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 06, 2020
Thank you cs

I did not see the programme but hopefully it is on catch up

Thank you
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on July 06, 2020
It was demonstrations on 2 separate days and I can remember which days but if you google ĎGok Wan This morning lemon chickení  and ĎGok Wan sweet and sour this morningí youíll find the recipes, thatís what I did, I watched the articles but didnít note the ingredients at the time
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 07, 2020
Thank you
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 12, 2020
I see today that viewings on the website has reached 49

Whereby the average was 15

It must be me holding my breath on a 4 hour flight xx
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 13, 2020
There are reports today that people are turning up at hotels and apartments and they are closed

Anyone experiencing this especially el sombrero in October
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on July 13, 2020
I don't think we have any time travellers on here. :)
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 13, 2020
I think it is just a company called Love Holidays that have been sending people to closed hotels.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 15, 2020
Just had a directive from jet2 about our booking in October

Has anyone flew yet and what was it like at both airports
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 18, 2020
Is anyone actually in los gigantes

TripAdvisor are still saying a number of places are still closed

Like el sombrero
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on July 18, 2020
Yes there are people in LG. Ok the hotel isnít open but Costa Los Gigantes is opening next Friday, Barcelo  is open, Los Dragos is open. Plenty of places to eat open so good choice. Itís a great time to be here, enough to do, see, eat but not too many thus ensuring our safe Ďbubbleí stays safe.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 18, 2020
Thanks for the update

Do you think el sombrero will be open in October
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Samijoe on July 18, 2020
We have had reassuring emails from Jet2 about flights in the future. Our accommodation is booked for September and we will be there unless something other than the virus stops us. LG is the one thing we have missed since March. Canít wait to return,regardless of costs in bars, restaurants and shops.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on July 18, 2020
Good for you! Let us all know how you get on. We are looking to return maybe November December, hopefully things will be nearer to normal.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 19, 2020
Yes good luck

We are booked for October and I feel safer there than here

Still worried about the flight

How am I going to drink beer with a face mask on xx
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Samijoe on July 19, 2020
With Jet2, Georgie, you are allowed to take your mask off to eat and drink - sensibly and responsibly 😂 I imagine we will all be so happy to get on holiday that even mask restrictions wonít spoil it. Hate the things, but needs must. Might have some with straws attached soon !!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 22, 2020
On the news today spain might be getting a second lockdown

Fingers crossed our visit is ok
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 23, 2020
Bonkers, as they can see the first lockdown achieved nothing but economic destruction, the problem is still there, exactly the same as at the start of lockdown. As soon as Tenerife get hundreds of thousands of tourists the virus will spread again. They have to choose between a few deaths and total economic meltdown.

Even now there is a huge spike in the Canaries (101 in the last week) due to migrants arriving on boats, large numbers of which test positive. According to JA that isn't a problem because they are contained.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 23, 2020
How mad and worried it is all

Perhaps it is bad has first thought
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 25, 2020
News tonight said lockdown and self isolate in and from spain

Hope our October holiday will be ok
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on July 25, 2020
Outbreak seems to be around Barcelona, so Canaries should be ok! If common sense prevails.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 25, 2020
Except it doesn't. Travel advice is against unnecessary travel to mainland Spain but quarantine on return applies to the Canaries and Balearics as well.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on July 26, 2020
And tui have cancelled all flights to the canaries as well.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 26, 2020
Sandylea

For august or beyond??
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: blarer on July 26, 2020
Until the rate of infections is deemed to be under control again.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: blarer on July 26, 2020
Unconfirmed, but apparently TUI have announced that clients with holidays booked to the Canaries & Balearics will be able to travel again from Monday, 27 July. 14 days quarantine upon return to the UK must still be completed until further notice. An announcement about how long the quarantine rules will be enforced is expected sometime tomorrow. So some good news for the Canaries & Balearics.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 27, 2020
Just found out that jet2 have cancelled their holidays until middle of august

Not looking good for October
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 27, 2020
The UK Govt have just added Spain's islands to the only essential travel advice.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on July 28, 2020
Whilst I feel very sad for people who will have their holidays cancelled & it does not matter if you agree or disagree with lockdowns your own health is the most important thing & I myself criticized the UK Government for not acting soon enough in March.

But what does annoy me is the two faced attitude of the Spanish Government, my wife & myself were trapped in Tenerife for 6 weeks under almost house arrest by their actions, with the position we were in we could see the Police patrolling the streets, the Coastguard in the air & on the sea patrolling the beaches & worst of all the drone flying over your property making sure you were not having a bbq or guests in your home, almost thought Franco was back in power.

All this going on when the rate of infections were VERY LOW & when we caught the first flight out on the 01/05/20 the total of deaths in the whole of the Canaries was 123 people and they say WE the UK are now over reacting by not allowing tourists to the Canaries & Balarices, "pot calling the kettle black comes to mind "
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 28, 2020
Yes it became a police state overnight. Makes me regret buying property there. Beginning to doubt I will ever see it again as international travel is no longer feasible.

And case numbers in the Canaries do also show a dramatic rise recently like the rest of Spain. I won't show the graph as people here don't like them. Suffice it so say it is starting to look like a bathtub curve and they have gone from 2 in hospital to 13 in a week or two.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: janey on July 29, 2020
Yes it became a police state overnight. Makes me regret buying property there. Beginning to doubt I will ever see it again as international travel is no longer feasible.

And case numbers in the Canaries do also show a dramatic rise recently like the rest of Spain. I won't show the graph as people here don't like them. Suffice it so say it is starting to look like a bathtub curve and they have gone from 2 in hospital to 13 in a week or two.

from what i read, 11 of the hospitalised patients were refugees off a boat which landed locally from africa.  very sad for the africans, but, great that the spanish picked them up immediatly and got them in isolation.   i suppose when it happens in uk, there has to be a few meetings about it, meanwhile the infected people are moving around within the community.  when eventually we make a decision, its too late.......   where is the british common sense? i dont recognise it within our decision making bodies.

it is shocking that the canary islands are on the list - i feel terribly sorry for anyone who had hols booked, and of course for the local business trying to start up again.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 29, 2020
When refugees arrive in the UK on a boat they are coming from France, which has a similar or lower infection rate to the UK and there are currently no travel restrictions from there, so it's an immigration problem and not really a Covid problem. I have no idea how they are received but I doubt there in any indecision as it is a regular occurance over decades, so there will be established policies for handling them.

When they go from Africa to the Canaries they seem to have a very high infection rate and are travelling to a much lower infection area, so Covid is a big issue. Seems they are handled well but it would be better if they were recorded on African stats, rather than Canarian stats.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on July 29, 2020
The government of the canaries stated yesterday that not one single case of covid19 has arisen as a result of immigrants coming into The Canaries. The 13 that came in to Playa Chica in Tenerife most recently were COVID free. Please donít encourage such defamatory remarks about our island which has such a low rate of the virus but is being strangled financially by political moves instigated by the UK government to put pressure on EU over Gibraltar. We are far safer here than in UK, we had a well planned and strictly enforced lockdown which proved successful in limiting the outbreak. The British press and government has a lot to answer to in regard to fake news and information.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on July 29, 2020
Whilst I feel very sad for people who will have their holidays cancelled & it does not matter if you agree or disagree with lockdowns your own health is the most important thing & I myself criticized the UK Government for not acting soon enough in March.

But what does annoy me is the two faced attitude of the Spanish Government, my wife & myself were trapped in Tenerife for 6 weeks under almost house arrest by their actions, with the position we were in we could see the Police patrolling the streets, the Coastguard in the air & on the sea patrolling the beaches & worst of all the drone flying over your property making sure you were not having a bbq or guests in your home, almost thought Franco was back in power.

All this going on when the rate of infections were VERY LOW & when we caught the first flight out on the 01/05/20 the total of deaths in the whole of the Canaries was 123 people and they say WE the UK are now over reacting by not allowing tourists to the Canaries & Balarices, "pot calling the kettle black comes to mind "

Iím sorry I donít understand what you are saying unhappy? The rate of infection was drastically reduced and contained as a result of such excellent lockdown and enforcement of the rules, which certainly for us in Puerto Santiago, near where you were, were nowhere near as you outline. Just firm handling which unfortunately is what people nowadays need. We have a very low infection rate down in the south and west, so why are spain being two faced please?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 29, 2020
Not defamatory, fact, see here https://thecanarynews.com/2020/07/10/latest-canary-islands-confirmed-covid-19-corona-virus-cases-2020-map/.

A lot of the immigrants arriving have Covid and they were counted in the figures for the Canaries creating a huge spike recently, on one day there were 59 out of a boat with sixty odd in it.

So I don't doubt they are contained and don't cause knock on infections but they appear on the official numbers and graphs making it look like there is a spike in the Canaries, the same as the rest of Europe.

It is easy to get rid of infections when there is a mass exit for people and then a closed border, not when they all came back to the UK. The spike took the government by surprise because more than 1000 people arrived back in the UK infected from Spain and Italy over a short time, seeding the infection all over the place and it started much earlier than was thought. People had it in December in Europe.



Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 30, 2020
Has anyone on this board flown to tenerife with a face mask on

I get stressed with 30 minutes in Tesco and can't breathe

What is it like please
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 30, 2020
What is it made of?

The proper surgical ones should be OK because surgeons have to wear them for long operations.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on July 31, 2020
Georgie, my wife & myself flew back to the UK on the Wizz air flight on the 01/05/20. The only masks available from the Pharmacies were the blue type, it was no problem, you can take them off to eat food & drinks & also in the loo so you do not have to wear them for 4 to 5 hours non stop.

Mind you the way things are going nobody will be flying anywhere soon, I can see this Coronavirus going on for years until a vaccine is produced & every single person in the world gets a jab.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 31, 2020
It is by no means certain there will ever be a vaccine, there has never been one for any another Coronavirus so far.

I don't think everybody in the world will ever be vaccinated, but you will probably need to be vaccinated to travel internationally without quarantine.

It wouldn't need everybody to be vaccinated anyway to get herd immunity, something like 70% minus the percentage that already have antibodies. Just as well as a large percentage of populations refuse vaccinations. There is a vaccine for flu but still up to 28000 die from it in the UK in a bad year.

Only two viruses have ever been eliminated by vaccines. The rest are endemic.

 
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on July 31, 2020
I stand corrected
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on July 31, 2020
It is by no means certain there will ever be a vaccine, there has never been one for any another Coronavirus so far.

I don't think everybody in the world will ever be vaccinated, but you will probably need to be vaccinated to travel internationally without quarantine.

It wouldn't need everybody to be vaccinated anyway to get herd immunity, something like 70% minus the percentage that already have antibodies. Just as well as a large percentage of populations refuse vaccinations. There is a vaccine for flu but still up to 28000 die from it in the UK in a bad year.

Only two viruses have ever been eliminated by vaccines. The rest are endemic.


Thanks for that Nophead, Iíll drop a line to Prof. Sarah Gilbert and let her know sheís wasting her time.

ALWAYS LOOKMON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 31, 2020
No not a waste of time but a policy of no socialising until there is a vaccine is wasting my time.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on July 31, 2020
Thanks unhappy

We can only find the cheap ones or new designer ones with logos on

Everyone makes money out of a crisis but 20 pound for a designer one wow
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 31, 2020
Well isn't all designer stuff overpriced stuff that you pay for looks over function?

I got 100 of the medical grade ones for about £1 each. They are now a bit cheaper.  So far I haven't worn one because I haven't been anywhere other than outdoors. We worked out it is cheaper to get food delivered  from Tesco than it is to drive there and back and use a disposable mask.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on July 31, 2020
nophead, I take it you have now given Costco the bums rush then.

angiebabes, looking on the bright side of life that's why we have stopped people in Spain & its Islands coming over to the UK just like they stopped people coming over there & stranding people like my wife & myself getting home by their draconian actions in the Canaries.

An action that has now cost us over £1500.00 because our Insurance company have confirmed that they will not pay our claim because they say we curtailed our holiday which is totally untrue because we were stranded for a full month after were we due to travel home to the UK after having 2 flights cancelled, perhaps the Spanish Government would like to pay our costs due to their stupid actions.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on July 31, 2020
nophead, I take it you have now given Costco the bums rush then.

angiebabes, looking on the bright side of life that's why we have stopped people in Spain & its Islands coming over to the UK just like they stopped people coming over there & stranding people like my wife & myself getting home by their draconian actions in the Canaries.

An action that has now cost us over £1500.00 because our Insurance company have confirmed that they will not pay our claim because they say we curtailed our holiday which is totally untrue because we were stranded for a full month after were we due to travel home to the UK after having 2 flights cancelled, perhaps the Spanish Government would like to pay our costs due to their stupid actions.

I canít agree with your statement about the Spanish governmentís Ďstupid  actionsí. I am very grateful for the strict, clear advice we were given which in turn meant we could come out of lockdown safely and enjoy the bubble we are currently enjoying. If the insurance company have illegally refused your claim, then Iím sure with your historical business connections you have the services of a first class lawyer to take matters further on your behalf. I assume before you decided to stay on in what you described earlier as your first class accommodation, your insurance company gave you assurances that they would cover your expenses and armed with this you will have a watertight case . Good luck!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on July 31, 2020
Type your reply after the [/quote] tag to stop it being included in the quote.

The only Government that has got it right is possibly Sweden. Spain had a great lockdown but there is no end game apart from no socialising or international holidays until there is a vaccine or cure. The UK seems to be coming to the same conclusion. So the world economy is ruined for the 99% and we can have no fun for the foreseeable just to extend the lives of the 1% that are the most unfit and on their way out anyway. Is it only me that thinks that is a total failure of logic? There is no shortage of people on this earth, in fact far too many.

The "new normal" should be that you need to keep yourself fit or hide away from the world, not that the normal for the rest of the population should end.

Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on August 01, 2020
I agree with you nophead.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Samijoe on August 01, 2020
So do I. Too many people seem happy for this to become the new normal.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: LucyW on August 01, 2020
Unhappy, please stop bleating about being stranded over here, there was absolutely no reason folk could not get back to the UK if they had acted immediately when the Canarian Government advised tourists to vacate their apartments/hotels back in March. I arranged flights for three separate couples in apartments close to me who had no internet access. I managed to get all three couples to the airport of their choice without any difficulty. It was only the people who chose to delay their return that were stranded and Iím not surprised your insurance company is now refusing your claim for, what was, an extended holiday.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 01, 2020
Can I say I disagree and it seems to drastic

Surely the second world war was madness and we pulled together

And what about Brexit xx
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on August 01, 2020
Well the war was for the benefit of everybody and wasn't as damaging to the economy and people could still go to pubs, restaurants, cinemas, each other's houses, shake hands, etc. I wasn't born then but I imagine dentistry and medical care didn't stop, either. International holidays were probably out though!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 03, 2020
Sorry to bore everyone but the local pub are advertising the 10 pound government gift voucher and we have booked

Not been out for 4 months apart from shopping

Even the drink is 50 percent off xx
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on August 03, 2020
Your comment made me smile Georgie even though itís absolutely nothing to do with Los Gigantes. Go on gov.uk and youíll find every eatery who are taking part in eat out to help out within 2 miles of a postcode, thereís loads, weíve already been today and plan on going several more times to various establishments this month

PS itís not a voucher, you just get your meal and drinks half price/£10 off  but only non alcoholic drinks are included in the scheme
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 03, 2020
I will never go to los gigantes again if Spain gets Gibraltar xx
What do you think
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: VictorM on August 04, 2020
Georgie - may I hope that Spain gets the rock!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on August 04, 2020
Looks like the first of our new aircraft carriers might only just be ready in time.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on August 04, 2020
If you have visited Gibraltar, and did the military/defence tour. You will understand how we can never let it go to Spain. It would be a dishonour to the thousands of lives that have protected it as part of the UK.
The Rock is almost hollow with the defence positions and gunnery locations cut into it. Never mind roads and barracks etc.. It tells quite a story.......
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 04, 2020
Cheers victorm

Love you also
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Edward Bear on August 04, 2020
Sorry to be rude however Georgie you really are a pillock.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on August 05, 2020
We went to a local pub last night and got half price 3 course meals. First time we have been in any building other than our house since lockdown. I was expecting staff in masks, one way systems, spaced out tables, no cash, etc.

In actually fact it seems to be over here. Just a sign saying keep 1+ metres distance but the tables were too close to do that and it was full on Tuesday night! Some floor markers 2m from the bar and a hand gel dispenser.

Apart from that it was completely normal. Most tables were for four and had two couples similar ages, paying separately, so not the same household, despite it being in Greater Manchester, where that is currently banned. 

We are in the Wigan borough which has much lower rates than the rest of Manchester and everybody I have spoken to is really angry and say they will ignore it. This ranges from young people to a retired prison governor and a retired head teacher and other normally law abiding people. So I think the government have lost control here. If you penalise people when they have done nothing wrong they lose all respect for authority.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on August 05, 2020
Last week we had a family break in Cornwall. The first since returning from Los G just luckily before the Lockdown. Weather being sunny every day bar one, we encamp on the beach each morning at about 11am.
We find a space on dry sand not to far from the shops and toilets etc.. Put up a tent  ground sheet  wind break  pop up chairs  cool box wet suits  body boards. All in all I guess our tribe of grandad (me) grandmum,
Daughter, son in law, and 2 toddlers. All in we take up about the size of an average bedroom say 3x4 m. This is usual, and there are hundreds of groups on this Polzeath beach. Last week in North Cornwall was heathing, I have never seen it so busy!! Then one afternoon on the beach a small group arrived of 4 people. Sqeezed in between us and some other groups. There really wasn't enough room for them, but they made their pitch, and put up a pole with a flag on the top. We thought no more of this until over about half an hour. 20 people arrived coughing bumping into us. We asked them to respect the 2m as there was a pandemic on. They laughed and were rude. Had there been a policeman visible I would have called for him. We had to pack every thing up and leave. As we took up our stuff they sat in our space.
Totally disgusted, never seen behaviour in all the years we have been in Cornwall.
From the accents I would say they were from Manchester!

Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on August 05, 2020
Sorry to be rude however Georgie you really are a pillock.
Don't hold back Edward, tell us what you really think! ;D
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Mary on August 05, 2020
Ignorance is ignorance Pilgrim, it doesnít matter where you are from. This virus has brought out the best and worst in people, and no matter what the government do they are dammed for it, crikey people on this forum canít agree, imagine trying to please 66 million people.
Unfortunately due to social media, everyone with a gripe, constantly bombards us with their negative views about everything under the sun, I no longer listen to the news as it is really biased, and most forums end up with contributors using any situation to spout their political views.
I have friends in Cornwall and they are disgusted with the behaviour of some of the tourists, and we have trouble locally with huge numbers descending on our village to picnic by the river and leave havoc behind.
Yes some are morons, but they always have been and for them itís normal behaviour, unfortunately for the rest of us they seem to be breeding 🙄

Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on August 05, 2020
So disrespect all those health workers & ordinary people that have died because of Coronavirus, people like you should be ashamed, and the idiots that run pubs & clubs etc should be closed down immediately, If my wife & myself had seen that in a eating place that we had booked, we would have turned around & gone home, no matter what the discount deal was.

As for you, the prison governor, head teacher & the young people, I await the news of a spike of the virus in & around Wigan where stupid people live & I expect you will require the hard worked staff of the NHS to come to your aid & stop you dying.

Most of the rise in people now contacting the virus is because people have not adhered to the Governments recommendations, it is like Supermarkets not enforcing the wearing of a mask, which has been proven to be beneficial in stopping the spread. This is mandatory in other words compulsory the LAW. So if I go into the Supermarket & start shoplifting they are not going to enforce that law either
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on August 05, 2020
An article on BBC today says in fact there isn't a real increase in cases in the UK. They are simply doing more targeted testing. Hospitals numbers are still going down.

I don't think I will need any help from the NHS because there are less than 1 in 10,000 cases in Wigan and they are in the centre and we are on the outskirts, so the chance of meeting somebody in a small pub with it is minute. Then I would have to actually catch it, even then 80% chance I would not even notice. 20% chance I would have symptoms ranging from a mild cold to bad flu and 1% chance it would kill me.

Also about 1% chance something else will kill me in the next year as a 58 year old man. Nobody has died from Covid in Wigan for about a month and national deaths rates have been running below average for a couple of months now demonstrating a lot of the people that have died were only a few months early. Half of them were in care homes and half of them were disabled. Not sure how much those two overlap.

Why would I not go to the pub? I will take my chances. Everybody should be responsible for managing their own risk in life. Some people chose to do the Isle of Man TT bike race where a few people die every year and nobody stops them. Other people chose hide away from Covid and give up their social life indefinitely.

Yes masks are required in shops and public transport, etc. I simply don't go anywhere that requires a mask, so haven't worn one yet. But they are causing shoplifting problems as all these mitigations have a downside, which is never considered.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on August 05, 2020
Also there is a much bigger chance of being serious injured or killed in a road accident. Should I give up driving and crossing the road? If not why should I stop going to the pub?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on August 05, 2020
So what you said in the past, since you returned from Tenerife months ago you have not ventured outside your home until you could get a cheap meal " HOW SAD YOU ARE ", I know it will cost you a few pennies because you are so tight but buy some masks & go outside you are not even at your age, in the at risk category.

It could be a long & sad time with your head stuck up your bum, live a little, death comes sooner than you think, if he was here you could ask my son, he had health problems but it did not stop him doing anything he wanted, to live & enjoy himself.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on August 05, 2020
I have been out of the house most days, when it isn't raining, and walked for miles. What I said was I haven't been in any other buildings as I haven't needed to. We can buy everything online, so no need to shop.

I bought 100 medical grade masks way back in May when it looked likely they would become mandatory but is is cheaper to get food delivered than it is to drive if you include the price of a mask.

We have had guests in our house and garden but that is banned again here now, so had to cancel people who were due to come for BBQ here today and later in the week. So will go to pubs and restaurants on our own instead.

I couldn't agree more that one should live life and enjoy oneself and not hide from covid. Most things we would normally do for entertainment are banned though. And going to LG when it is masks in all indoor spaces doesn't appeal at all. No idea what it will be like in Nov, here or there.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 05, 2020
No problem Edward bear

Cant you stick to the jokes you always told it made be laugh
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on August 05, 2020
You speak total sense nophead. wish our government had your views.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 06, 2020
Edward bear you remind me of 2 Indian tents arguing


2 tents
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 13, 2020
A few friends who have travelled lately are saying you need to complete a online form or when you come back you spend 2 hours in passport control completing it

Has any one experienced this please
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on August 20, 2020
Been trying to cancel my October holiday and re book with jet2 but no one is answering the phones

Anyone else experiencing this and appreciate times are tough
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on August 20, 2020
I was on hold for 2 hours Georgie but they do answer eventually.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on September 04, 2020
Just read the news and jet2 have suspended all flights to spainish regions until October
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on September 04, 2020
Don't know where you got that information from, just gone onto their web site no mention in their Coronavirus info which you would expect to be fully upto date, also checked outward & inward flights in September they quoted a price for both
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Mary on September 04, 2020
Just seen a tweet from Jet2 and Georgie is sort of right, they have suspended flights to mainland Spain which will affect Barcelona, Alicante and Malaga for the rest of summer 2020.i presume therefore until October.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on September 05, 2020
This does not include the Canaries they start flying there on the 13/09/2020
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on September 05, 2020
Who would want to come anyway with these onerous mask regulations.....? What a way to spend a holiday. We're cancelling our Christmas break at el sombrero with jet2. We'll lose our deposit but are not parting with any more money to spend 10 days constricted by a mask.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Davymar on September 05, 2020
Who would want to come anyway with these onerous mask regulations.....? What a way to spend a holiday. We're cancelling our Christmas break at el sombrero with jet2. We'll lose our deposit but are not parting with any more money to spend 10 days constricted by a mask.

I tend to agree with the above, we always visit around Feb/March and of course we were caught up in it this March, we will wait and see what happens, we can go at the drop of a hat, we have swapped our September flight to Greece until September next year, we should have flown this Tuesday, what puts us off is not the resorts themselves, but sharing the airport and flights with selfish people who do not care about others, we can all only hope that things improve somehow, and also spare a thought for all the bars and restaurant owners, and hope they survive.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on September 05, 2020
I think while there is quarantine on the way back the only people that will be going are pensioners who are old enough to behave themselves on a plane and unlikely to be infected.

I would go if they get rid of the stupid mask regulations, i.e. having to wear them outside even when you can distance.  But the way things are going I think they will only increase restrictions until the numbers come down, which doesn't look likely anytime soon.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on September 05, 2020
I agree with everyone but have noticed people are now wearing designer mask with patterns on

Someone must be making money out of a sad situation
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Edward Bear on September 05, 2020
Georgie, there is no show without Punch.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: losgiganteskid on September 06, 2020


Someone must be making money out of a sad situation

Yes - the bl**dy Chinese
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on September 06, 2020
I see that el sombrero are still closed after saying they are open from the 1st September

How sad if it is the truth
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on September 06, 2020
The problem is nearly every country has put Spain on their no fly list, so there are virtually no tourists now. Lots of places that had opened are closing again and I expect some that expected to open can't now.

Younger tourists that aren't afraid of Covid generally can't afford to waste two weeks in quarantine.  I expect older retired tourists are afraid of the numbers and flying.

And then there are people like me that don't want to spend a holiday in a mask.

The second wave has really screwed them up. I have no idea how the Canaries will survive.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on September 07, 2020
Weíll weíve have decided weíre definitely going at the beginning of October as usual, weíve taken additional insurance at a very reasonable cost and we have to wear masks at home so other than the fact weíll have to wear one in the street thereís not much difference there, we eat out and socialise more there than we do in the UK so weíll be supporting the local bars and restaurants and Iím sure there are other like minded people and thatís how the bars and restaurants will survive
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on September 07, 2020
Cs advise please - what name insurance?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on September 07, 2020
There won't be much open though.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on September 07, 2020
Angiebabes - weíve just renewed our annual travel insurance policy with Staysure and opted for an add on which only cost £31.06 and covers us for travelling in Europe against FCO advice for everything except whatever they are advising against travel for.

Sandylea Thatís very negative, weíve got a lovely apartment,  IĎm sure the sun will be shining and weíll be able to go in the pool everyday, Flor del Drago, Martini, Charlieís Bistro are all open to name a few, thatíll do us fine thanks
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on September 07, 2020
I'm sorry but I'm realistic. I've been watching lots of videos on youtube filmed over the last couple of weeks and it looks like a ghost town.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Edward Bear on September 07, 2020
SandyLea get that glass changed to half full as soon as possible.
We live here and have no problems about eating out.
I am talking about Santiago del Teide and it's coastal areas.
Get it booked.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Samijoe on September 07, 2020
We are hopefully flying in just over a week. Jet2 seem more positive about flights going ahead than they were earlier in the year. Insurance sorted with Staysure, fantastic apartment waiting and every intention of supporting local businesses. Wearing a mask where required is a small price to pay. Time to stop the doom and gloom and return to some normality. Lots of places open from what my friends are telling me, whether in LG or LA.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on September 08, 2020
Well said Samijoe, I completely agree, we wonít be far behind you and if Jet2 arenít flying weíll book with Ryanair
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on September 08, 2020
Good luck to all of you that are visiting

I wish I was but will wait until next year

Please let us know about any updates when you get there
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Samijoe on September 08, 2020
Jet2 still advising flights from 13th scheduled to go ahead. Car hire prices with several companies higher than usual, much lower with others. Not daring to book one until last minute, but fingers crossed. Canít wait to get back.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on September 09, 2020
Try Cicar, just checked and they are cheaper than when we booked, you donít pay anything until you pick the car up and you can cancel by email at any time.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Samijoe on September 09, 2020
Thank you, CS. We wonít need a car for September, unfortunately Jet2 have suspended flights until 26th!! So much for being optimistic . With todayís news from Boris and his scientific advisors my natural optimism is waning and we may decide that a holiday in LG 2020 is not happening.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on September 09, 2020
It's so sad and that is why I cancelled

I think things will get a lot worse until we find a vaccine

I have not been on the tube for 5 months now and do not fancy a flight

Sorry
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: cs on September 10, 2020
Ryanair are still flying
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: blarer on September 10, 2020
But the FCO aren't changing their stance on only essential travel.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on September 10, 2020
But that is only advice, they are not stopping you at the moment. It does invalidate most insurance policies, but not all, and if you get problems there you can't get assistance from the FCO.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on September 10, 2020
Donít forget the caŮarŪan government have introduced their own insurance policy to cover purely for covid whilst on their islands. Also you have an EHIC card which will cover you for any emergency health needs until end of year if youíre not a pensioner.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on September 10, 2020
As for getting assistance from the FCO, don't hold your breath, like the Government & the airlines when we were stranded they were useless.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on September 10, 2020
From our experience in Tenerife, hospital doesn't take any notice of ehic, they ask for your credit card!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on September 10, 2020
SandyLee Iím guessing that was either hospiten Sur or Quieron. In Mahon and Candelaria both state hospitals it is readily accepted as it is at health centres,  all run by the state.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on September 10, 2020
Sandylea

Totally agree and that is what happened a few years back
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: SandyLea on September 10, 2020
It was at state hospital quite a few years ago now.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on September 10, 2020
We were in the EU for more than a few years, as I have said before we were the only Country that adhered to the rules & the laws in the EU, thank god we are leaving.

I see they are rattling their chains again, don't they realize they are not dealing with D C or T M anymore they are dealing with Boris & the man is not for turning.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on September 10, 2020
Sandylea, then it was illegal! An EHIC card guarantees treatment reciprocal between participating countries and the cost passed to your country of residence. When my husband had Ä17000 worth of treatment in Candelaria I had to give EHIC and details of when and how long weíd been in Tenerife but that was it, three years ago. Iím sorry you had that experience but I know quite a few people who have been To the green clinic And wondered why theyíd not been treated with EHIC card.When in fact itís a private hospital. Admittedly it does take some state hospital patients who are Spanish residents, but that is an agreement between the state of Spain and hospiten Sur.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on September 12, 2020
El sombrero is still closed according to TripAdvisor

Thank god I cancelled October even though I regret it
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on September 12, 2020
?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on September 19, 2020
I was wondering how the local shopkeepers are doing and have any closed

Hopefully not

An update would be good please
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on September 19, 2020
The Old Guy Rules does tours around LG on camera every now and again. This is his latest one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sblnD6y3rlc

Very sad to see.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on September 19, 2020
Like in many other Countries, up a creek without a paddle, Georgie can you not take a hint, STOP posting stupid repetative questions.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Samijoe on September 20, 2020
Here in LG, sun shining but thatís about the most normal thing about this wonderful village. Itís extremely quiet, as we thought it would be. Had a drink in Green Corner, quite busy, but have to book tables. Jardin del Sol open and food is as good as ever. Staff desperate for more customers/ tourists. Bars and restaurants in Alcala seem as busy as usual, and car parks there are full. Might be locals, but heard several different languages being spoken on beach and at beach bar. Very few people walking around so at least we have been able to remove masks for a few minutes at a time. Before anyone tells me thatís against the law, everyone does it !! We are so glad we came and encourage anyone thinking about taking a risk to go ahead and book.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on September 20, 2020
Thanks for the good bit of news well done

What is the marina like are the restaurants open
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on September 20, 2020
Did you not watch the video I posted a link to? It shows the harbour at night at the beginning.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on September 20, 2020
Samijoe, sounds great hopefully be out next month for a couple of weeks, unlike the other 2 idiots we want to support an area in the world that we have loved for over 30 years, let's hope we don't have any further lockdowns in either Country to stop us. "keep wearing the mask" and distance yourself.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Samijoe on September 20, 2020
Unhappy, once you get here you will appreciate how the village is trying to keep things as pleasant as possible for visitors who genuinely care and want to keep coming back. Lots of maintenance work on Crab Island this afternoon and some increase in people walking around. Havenít been to Marina yet, Georgie, but will report on my findings!! The negative postings are not helpful to anyone.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: linda on September 21, 2020
Been here since Jan. Village lovely as always though quiet.Come and enjoy paradise.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on September 21, 2020
Nophead

I watched the video thank you

Brought back some great memories but sad to see not a lot of people
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on September 21, 2020
What I did notice that was not out of breath

From the marina to the bench by the first supermarket is very steep just pass the clock on the right
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on October 11, 2020
I have now lost 3 times holidays deposit this year and give up

Tui have no more cruise next year

How sad
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on October 27, 2020
Anyone used wizz air who seem to be taking bookings at a reasonable price
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 07, 2020
Can someone explain the logic of selling 12 pound flights when they are getting cancelled

And is ibericos closed down which was great quality good prices
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on November 07, 2020
Don't know the economics of £12 tickets but Ibericos has closed down and so has the Bamboo Patisserie next door. The Bamboo bar is open and quite busy this afternoon when we walked past.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 07, 2020
Here we go again, one minute he's asking about Wizz Air and the good prices, if he had read my post in MAY he would know the answer.

Then he questions flights being £12.00, I did not set the price, maybe because I can travel any of the 365 days in the year, I can get the deals that he can't.

Also the price was not as he quoted it was £12.10.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 08, 2020
Unhappy what is your problem

You are putting off people coming to los gigantes

They might think everyone is a arse@@### like you and you are dragging the area down
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 08, 2020
Middle England usually go to france and mainland Spain for food

Whereby I love los gigantes and the restaurants

Are you trying to put a downer on the area because maybe you run a business or live in an other area and are jealous
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 08, 2020
My god, you are a bigger pra?, IDIOT than I thought, I owned property there for 18 years, I spend more time there in 1 year than you do in 5 years, therefore spending a hell of a lot more money than you do.

Yes I live in middle England, the original capital of England, Mercia, not the new capital London, which I believe you live in, and think it is the capital of the world, how sad.

You obviously do not read posts correctly, not surprising, I sold my Company 3 years ago when our son died & I must say for loads of money, Why would I be jealous of you ?.

Providing the travel ban is lifted my wife & myself will be spending 110 days in Tenerife to start with. Then we are off to Australia not sure how many weeks, Business Class of course & then back to Tenerife for a break Sept/Oct & then looking forward to our 3 month winter break in Tenerife 2022 for 3 months.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on November 08, 2020
Deary me Unhappy, whats wrong with you, your blood pressure must be through the roof, you need a good
drink and a lie down. You won't be seeing ozzie land at your rate!  RELAX..... have a rest.............zzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on November 08, 2020
I thought Australia isn't letting anybody in except perhaps kiwis?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 09, 2020
Pilgrim, half the year on holiday is relaxing, I don't need a drink for that. I take my blood pressure every day last week the average was 135/78 not bad for a 73 year old.

With your vast knowledge, any advice on arthritis, the vino every day is not helping.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on November 09, 2020
Pilgrim, half the year on holiday is relaxing, I don't need a drink for that. I take my blood pressure every day last week the average was 135/78 not bad for a 73 year old.

With your vast knowledge, any advice on arthritis, the vino every day is not helping.

Turmeric, thatís the answer unhappy! Does wonders and doesnít detract from the superb red you love!

Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 09, 2020
Thanks I will try it, and nophead I have been called some names, but never a fruit, my wife calls me a fruit & nut case sometimes, when I do things a 21 year old would not tackle, but that is better than sitting on my bum & getting bored.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 09, 2020
Hopefully a one way ticket to Australia

You will get deported after 2 days
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on November 09, 2020
Hopefully a one way ticket to Australia

You will get deported after 2 days

Not nice, or called for GEORGIE. Youíve posted some rubbish in your time, if you canít be at least civil, donít bother. This site is designed to help people with genuine queries regarding Los Gigantes and make it easier to live or holiday in these parts. Unhappy has had a rough deal financially in LG plus he has suffered huge personal loss. Give him a break please?
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 09, 2020
Angiebabes, we must stop meeting like this people will start talking, anyway although only 4 foot nothing & that is my stocking feet, I have meet people like him all my life,  its like water off a duck's back. I just treat them as the idiot's they are.

They must have enjoyed my company in Australia not that long ago, the 6 weeks we spent there visiting family on the Sunshine Coast, then flying to Sydney, then flying up to Carines & the Barrier Reef also diving with the fantastic fish, eat your heart out Georgie they did not send me home, I had a great holiday which you could not afford.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Tanemera on November 09, 2020
"Turmeric, thatís the answer unhappy! Does wonders and doesnít detract from the superb red you love!"

Careful! I tried this last year, Angiebabes, and spent quite a lot of time sitting on the toilet. Apparently it has this effect on some people.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on November 09, 2020
"Turmeric, thatís the answer unhappy! Does wonders and doesnít detract from the superb red you love!"

Careful! I tried this last year, Angiebabes, and spent quite a lot of time sitting on the toilet. Apparently it has this effect on some people.

Oh no! Iíve been ok and itís helped with my thumbs which give me gip sometimes!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 09, 2020
Angiebabes

You are joking or missing the point

I just want to talk about los Gigantes and have been called names
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on November 09, 2020
Angiebabes

You are joking or missing the point

I just want to talk about los Gigantes and have been called names

Iím not joking GEORGIE, for all the time youíve spent in LG your knowledge is extremely limited and your constant repetition of the the same question is boring to be honest. Youíve almost reduced this forum to non functional, a forum I find very informative and helpful, and for that I canít excuse you.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 10, 2020
Totally agree. 
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: AWOL on November 10, 2020
And me.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on November 10, 2020
Well there is nothing offensive about a polite question, even if it is repetitive. If you don't know the answer then don't reply rather than hurling insults. I have never encountered such a rude bullying forum before.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 10, 2020
Repetitive ? he asked the same question one after the other 7 times without a reply, you would have thought he would have got the hint after the second or third one

No that is hoping for a miracle, the person is as boring as watching paint dry.

Has he ever posted anything informative ? Oh yes he did mention Cyprus, what the hell that's got to do with Los Gigantes or Tenerife, I have no Idea, but you are the expert perhaps you can tell us.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on November 10, 2020
I suppose it shows how it could / should be done. I.e. quick tests at the airport instead of impossibly slow and expensive tests checked by hotel staff.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: pilgrim on November 10, 2020
Someone said Tipsy Terrace and the tennis courts are up for sale!
Unhappy, you said you were looking for an investment, could be ideal for your business acumen!
You being a non drinker would be an ideal landlord, though possibly you may fall out and bar all the customers. Could have Georgie working for you, running the Crazy Golf. And Nophead doing the accounts.
Make mine a double!!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: AWOL on November 10, 2020
Well there is nothing offensive about a polite question, even if it is repetitive. If you don't know the answer then don't reply rather than hurling insults. I have never encountered such a rude bullying forum before.

Quite agree about insults but you have only been a member for less then a year so are not bored yet whilst some have been batting off his questions since 2016 when he joined. As stated above it is always a question and I cannot recall constructive advice about LG coming the other way. From someone who has supposedly  been visiting LG for 15 years or so he does not know much. He should be a fountain of knowledge by now.

You can check back on his questions should you get bored!!!!!!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on November 10, 2020
Well there is nothing offensive about a polite question, even if it is repetitive. If you don't know the answer then don't reply rather than hurling insults. I have never encountered such a rude bullying forum before.

Quite agree about insults but you have only been a member for less then a year so are not bored yet whilst some have been batting off his questions since 2016 when he joined. As stated above it is always a question and I cannot recall constructive advice about LG coming the other way. From someone who has supposedly  been visiting LG for 15 years or so he does not know much. He should be a fountain of knowledge by now.

Well said AWOL I totally agree. Georgie never offers information, yet claims to have spent years in LG.

You can check back on his questions should you get bored!!!!!!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 10, 2020
Pilgrim, you are getting as bad as you know who, not reading posts, I will repeat, having worked for 53 years I am now retired.

Also the last time I invested money in Tenerife it cost me 18000.00 Euro, just about the cost of a double to you, also as for employing the other 2, I could not care how clever you profess to be, I have already said I don't suffer fools, you of course are included in that category.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 10, 2020
How can I offer information

In a early post around 100 years ago I said if I am not there my telescope does not pick up local issues

That is why I ask
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 10, 2020
Is that why you keep asking senile & repetitive questions, you are that old, what did you do when you have  have been coming to LG for the last 15 years ?.

If you have a white stick, please accept my sincere apologies, otherwise get a life, ever thought of posting on JA site
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on November 10, 2020
How can I offer information

Clearly YOU CANíT so back off, read the information thatís all over these topics and stop asking inane questions that have been answered time and time again,
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 11, 2020
Trying to book after the vaccine in April

Prices have gone though the roof

Yes 15 years and loved it and lots of local friends
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: AWOL on November 11, 2020
How can I offer information

Clearly YOU CANíT so back off, read the information thatís all over these topics and stop asking inane questions that have been answered time and time again,

You would not believe the question Georgie has just asked  on the restaurant guide thread, THE BEST ONE EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MADE MY DAY THIS ONE HAS.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on November 11, 2020
How can I offer information

Clearly YOU CANíT so back off, read the information thatís all over these topics and stop asking inane questions that have been answered time and time again,

You would not believe the question Georgie has just asked  on the restaurant guide thread, THE BEST ONE
EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MADE MY DAY THIS ONE HAS.


IVE JUST REAd IT AWOL AND COMMENTED BEFORE I READ THIS POST OF YOURS. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: AWOL on November 11, 2020
Now Mr Nophead will hopefully understand we are not being rude in the true sense and he may see fit to join our "exclusive" Club. You will know who we are as all our hair has been pulled out :)
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 12, 2020
Thank god he's coming in April, we are coming home end of March, just think we might have meet him there & been bored in real life face to face.

The prices are expensive then because there is a holiday you plonky.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: angiebabes on November 12, 2020
Thank god he's coming in April, we are coming home end of March, just think we might have meet him there & been bored in real life face to face.

The prices are expensive then because there is a holiday you plonky.

Hang on Unhappy - he hasnít asked the question about easter yet !!!
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: unhappy on November 12, 2020
Please, please don't encourage him to ask a question about ANYTHING.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 16, 2020
Trying to book but the prices are very expensive for next year

Have restaurant prices gone up to cover the loss in revenue  please
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on November 16, 2020
We haven't noticed any prices going up. Certainly La Bodeguita and El Pescador seem just as good value.

Of course the exchange rate was worse when we arrived but improving.
Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: Georgie on November 17, 2020
I for one would not mind the prices going up to fund the local area

Title: Re: Getting expensive
Post by: nophead on November 17, 2020
Given that table occupancy is one or two in each restaurant it would need a massive supplement to cover the loss. We wouldn't be able to afford it!