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« on: June 05, 2010 »
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  • What is the purpose of this website?

    I am new to it but all it seems to be is people sniping at each other and complaining.  You are not, it seems, allowed to criticise any restaurants for example, which may actually be of use to new visitors.  You complain when a local puts up an unsightly aerial.  Who are we to complain about what a local resident does.  It may be very unsightly but most of the people on this forum seem to be visitors so it is nothing to do with them. Only people who live in the town can really complain.  Obviously some members do live in the town but I think everyone else should well alone.  Then there is the subject of touristic licences which has caused yet more moaning.

    Offline cs

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  • this website can be really helpful and informative however I agree with many of you points

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  • I agree with you cs however the management do not like being criticised. Beware of the deleted posts.

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  • It doesn't take long to get to know which contibutors to ignore.  As CS says, there is a lot of useful information.

    Mrs Mac

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  • I am fairly new to the site but have found it quite helpful.  Granted, there is a lot of moaning and unfortunately that would put some people off (say restaurants) before they even arrive.  Might be better to have a marks out of ten system for restaurants, and then leave people make their own minds up.   I just wish I could be back on Los Gigantes now instead of being in England in this rotten climate.  8)

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  • Sadly, over recent years this website has become next to useless...

    To newcomers it is true that there is some useful information to be found, however, none of it has been updated for many years, so once read and taken on board that is that.

    The "news" pages are a complete waste of time, the newest story there as I write this was posted in mid-May and of course there are the paranoid message boards.

    There is good reason for all of the above of course, the site is operated by two people who are in business together locally and understandibly nervous about postings which could be considered to be critical to any of their clients, past or potential.

    There are two other fora, a google search will find them, and they are far more useful for asking questions on how things work on the island, answering questions, full of news and information and so on. True they too have their fair share of negative posts and controversial posts too, but surely that is the whole point of an open forum, a place where things are discussed openly? 

    The recent concerns about denuncias flying around as a result of posts about poor service at a restaurant or from a local tradesman simply do not wash. 

    In my opinion, the present operators of this board must allow a small group of people to come together to help in the running of the site, specifically the message boards, as moderators.  This would divorce the operators from the day to day posts thereby significantly removing the risks to their business of posts which might be critical to their clients, although to be fair these are few and far between.

    If such a development continues to be rejected by the operators then the future of this site and more importantly the usefulness of this site will continue to decline as rapidly as it has over the past couple of years to a point where it might as well not exist.

    Rather than deleting this post, I hope it is treated as constructive and positive and that the points raised are openly discussed in an adult manner!!


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  • Spot on Mr Max, I couldn't have put it better.

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  • sadly, i agree with all above.

    what is all this bless and curse? its little short of a nasty childrens playground game!!

    grockle

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  • The message boards are not attracting too many posts these days and that is a shame. A few years ago we went through a phase of referring one particular restaurant as 'the establishment which cannot be named'!! Sadly things have got worse and nowhere can be named now.
    As Mr Max says either the boards are there for open debate or they are not.

    As regards the bless/curse 'options' janey - there was, as you probably recall, a lot of debate around that when it was introduced. The idea would seem to have been that contributors with high 'reputations' would be the wise and reliable board members so it is unfortunate and perhaps unhelpful to see such high negativity.

    Let's hope that the board can return to the busy and fun place it has been in the past? Things do need looking at though.

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  • The purpose of the news is for users and locals to send in articles of interest from the area.  The following introduced the news and has been repeated on many occasions.  I don't think I have had more than half a dozen responces.  Maybe if people stopped moaning as much and contributed more the news would be more interesting.  I do have a full time job and as we all know trying to make ends meet at the moment is not so easy.  Trying to earn a living from being a roving reporter in the Los Gigantes area will hardly feed my cat. (Once again I am asking - are there any volunteers - Mr Max how about you? You certainly have a tallent for writing and the time to do it.)

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    Do you know of a new business opening, or a business under new management?  Help them get a good start by contacting us and we?ll arrange an  interview and  take pictures for an article in our local news.

    Let us know of a public event or charity fund raiser we will advertise it here for you in the number one web site of Los Gigantes.

    For further info contact the losgigantes.com office 922 860431 (ask for Sheila)

    « Last Edit: June 15, 2010 by Dolly Diver »

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  • Still no mention of this stupid childish Bless/Curse thing. Originated by someone with nothing better to occupy their time with.
    So much for being busy !

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  • The bless curse is a facility on this forum which our web master chose to switch on.  What you as users do with it is up to you.  At least new users can see at a glance who the trouble makers are!!!

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  • The purpose of the news is for users and locals to send in articles of interest from the area.  The following introduced the news and has been repeated on many occasions.  I don't think I have had more than half a dozen responces.  Maybe if people stopped moaning as much and contributed more the news would be more interesting.  I do have a full time job and as we all know trying to make ends meet at the moment is not so easy.  Trying to earn a living from being a roving reporter in the Los Gigantes area will hardly feed my cat. (Once again I am asking - are there any volunteers - Mr Max how about you? You certainly have a tallent for writing and the time to do it.)

    You can take part too.

    Add comments to postings.

    Send us news stories and pictures.

    Do you know of a new business opening, or a business under new management?  Help them get a good start by contacting us and we?ll arrange an  interview and  take pictures for an article in our local news.

    Let us know of a public event or charity fund raiser we will advertise it here for you in the number one web site of Los Gigantes.

    For further info contact the losgigantes.com office 922 860431 (ask for Sheila)



    Thank you for your reply DD, but once again you have skirted around the issue.  My contribution, and arguably my last is:-

    In fairness there are now plenty of well known sources of local news, some of which are west coast based, and one of which has become very popular in recent time primarily because of the lack of such a service here.  Furthermore, I see no point in encouraging a copy/paste exercise.

    Likewise the Bless/Curse debate also skirts around the central issue....... which is......

    Until there is freedom in the thread headers or their content, this place will die whilst the other places continue to grow and flourish.  That will be a shame.  

    Nobody is suggesting that you or Paul should personally create new threads, start off debates about local issues or whatever. That is for the users to do, but users need encouragement to engage, and when threads are labelled "positive reports only" and when he who dares does stray and contributions are  removed it is no wonder that there is such an acute shortage of users, and therefore contributions.

    You simply cannot expect this place to be a hive of active debate, thereby providing a service for your loyal advertisers, if you restrict the content and delete posts, especially those intended to open active debate.  With respect, the "its my board so if I don't like it I will delete it" stance is genuinely not necessary, there are rarely posts that warrant that level of dictatorial editing, and in the main such a stance does nothing but discourage visitors to the site and use of this board.  

    Many of us would agree and understand I'm sure, that you guys are trying to earn a living in difficult times, just like the rest of the world is.  That in itself should be a good reason why you can ill afford to allow this place to fundamentally die like many of our restaurants, bars and other businesses locally.

    You need to become much less protective and allow free speech within the accepted rules of decency, whatever it may be that a person wants to express.  If they have had crap service at a restaurant then they should be allowed to say so, if they have been ripped off by a builder or a shop, likewise.  I don't buy the denuncia excuse any more than anyone else here does, but as in my previous post, the introduction of a few independent moderators will allow you and Paul to divorce yourselves from potentially controversial discussions and the burden of policing every word posted allowing you to get on with your business and rather than discouraging use of this site, you will find people will drop in to actually learn about the area and learn about the range of services available to them should they decide to visit.  Members of the public thrive on healthy debate and are perfectly capable of coming to their own conclusions about where to go and what to do.

    Clearly the future lies in the hands of the operators. Open and sometimes controversial debate has led to the huge expansion of other places and I'd like to think that a significant relaxation of attitude will turn this place around before much longer and more importantly before it is too late.

    A final note, there is a lot wrong with our area, much like anywhere else in the world there is always something that could be improved, but often good reason why nothing has or can be done.  Despite this, this remains the best place in the world to live - innit
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  • Janey has  a curse score of -61.  

    Dolly, are you seriously saying she is a  trouble maker? She clearly is not. She is a very constructive contributor.  I  think she has been cursed many many  times by one childish individual in particular who may have multiple identities.  It should be possible for the administrator to  identify this problem  and  switch off their voting ability.

    On the Island's most popular website, members can thank contributors for their messages  and they are identified  as such on the website. This creates a positive environment which encourages friendship and constructive messages. Anyone who is at all  apprehensive about posting on the Los Gigantes dot com message board  is bound to be put off by this silly childish and anonymous cursing business.  

    « Last Edit: June 15, 2010 by phoenix »

    orange

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  • Mr Max has outlined the reality with great clarity and objectiveness.

    It has nothing to do with blesses and curses.

    Thats' a bit of fun - isn't it?



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  • orange ,if that is your idea of fun you are not the girl we thought you were.
    Fun.......NOT

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  • Incidentally Dolly or pm adjust your clock forward. If you wait long enough it will be correct.

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  • Still no mention of this stupid childish Bless/Curse thing. Originated by someone with nothing better to occupy their time with.
    So much for being busy !


    There you go Edward I've now adjusted you so that you are now a positive "bless"....how sad am I?

    On a more serious note I'm wondering if Dolly and the PM will have the nouse or indeed the will to react to the excellent, constructive criticism raised by Mr Max in his post of June 15, somehow I doubt it, but I'd be happy to be proved wrong.
    « Last Edit: June 16, 2010 by amibovvered »

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  • Janey has  a curse score of -61.  

    Dolly, are you seriously saying she is a  trouble maker? She clearly is not. She is a very constructive contributor.  I  think she has been cursed many many  times by one childish individual in particular who may have multiple identities.  It should be possible for the administrator to  identify this problem  and  switch off their voting ability.



    i agree phoenix, i have a gut feeling on whom exactly is 'cursing' me constantly! i think you should have a check dolly, i think you will find out it is in general the same contributor! 
    i think there seems to be only 'orange' enjoying the 'fun'......

    Mr Max has outlined the reality with great clarity and objectiveness.

    It has nothing to do with blesses and curses.

    Thats' a bit of fun - isn't it?






    i rest my case.
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    orange

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  • The question was rhetorical. It was not not meant to a case tester.

    Believing you have actually been blessed or cursed for making a post on
    the Los Gigantes Message Board is taking its Biblical roots to the extreme.

    The version in these circumstances are to me - Bless I agree, Curse I do not agree.


    BL

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  • When the reputation facility was introduced 12 months ago it wasn't popular (see thread Reputation).
    It obviously still is not popular for some people.
    So why not just get rid of it.
    It serves no purpose other than to wind people up.

    A democratic suggestion....have a vote set up and go with the majority.

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  • Deafeniing silence from the moderator on this suggestion. Is he sulking.

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  • Deafeniing silence from the moderator on this suggestion. Is he sulking.

    possibly.....

    ps. does this mean we'll get cursed?

    Mrs Mac

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  • Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.  What a great shame that this great website, which gives, and could give more information to newcomers like myself, is now just a battle ground for what seems to be local people ready to have a moan and dig at each other.

    For goodness sake, leave your bickering off of this website and use it for what it is intended.

    Have you all forgotten what a wonderful place Los Gigantes, and those of us who can only come over occasionally do not want to read all this trivia.

    Please do all get your act together.

    Thanks.  :-[

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  • Poor Mrs Mac do you not realise that most of the comments are with the tongue firmly extended into the side of the cheek.

    magsnmike

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  • Mr Edward Bear, newcomers would not realise that and would be put off not only visiting the web site but also Los Gigantes.

    This web site needs to be used like many others world wide to be informative and interesting to people contemplating visiting the area.

     

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  • newcomers would not realise that and would be put off not only visiting the web site but also Los Gigantes.

    This web site needs to be used like many others world wide to be informative and interesting to people contemplating visiting the area.

     

    i agree.  this site, i would have thought, was here to promote this lovely part of tenerife which is always forgotten by the spanish tourist board (who are caught up with either santa cruz or adeje), and which has the nicest scenery, the best of restaurants and of course the nicest people really!!! it is a friendly village, with the most lovely walks, lots of facilities including beaches, rock pools, tennis, crazy golf, boat trips, boat hire, golf, what more can you want on holiday.....?  and, we are very well situated for exploring the island - north and south.  also, hate to remind the southerners down in playa las americas but we get better weather.... more sunshine less rain!

    maybe, just maybe, when this motorway is finally finished.... we will be known as the BEST resort.... but, then again, i am not sure that is what i want....?????
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  • lovely walks

    Are you in the same Los Gigantes that was named after me ?? - where are these walks ??  ;)
    I wanted to be the Cincinnati Kid - but couldn't spell it

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  • you can walk all along the front from los gigantes, through crab island, down past barcelo santiago, along the new coastal prom, down into the small harbour of puerto santiago, along spanish corner, right along playa del arena, varadero, keep on the road down to the coast again, along where the surfers usually are, right along to alcala.

    how much more of a walk do you want?! ;D



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  • Get the bus upto Tamaimo or Santiago del Teide, stunning walks up there, and if you're up to it walk down the barranco back to Los Gigantes. It's particularly stunning in February when the Almond blossom is out. While in Santiago del Teide have s look round the lovely old manor house that's been converted to a hotel. For those who travel a bit further, get the bus to Playa Paraiso, or Armenime and amble down to El Puertito and enjoy a beer and tapas at Pepe y Lolas.