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Offline linda

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Re: Rock fall on Los Gigantes beach
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2009 »
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  • Just read that br=each may be closed for upto one year but at least 6 months
    sorry for earlier post in capitlas my pc has its own mind!!

    phoenix

    Re: Rock fall on Los Gigantes beach
    « Reply #31 on: November 19, 2009 »
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  • Yes Linda  I've just read that too. There is a real possibilty that the final outcome will be a beach much reduced in size with the creation of a cordoned off safety zone beneath the cliffs. The trouble is,  the taller the cliffs,  the greater the potential spread of falling debris and as we all know the Los Gigantes cliffs are very tall indeed.   

    It does make one wonder about the wisdom of allowing all that deveopment up by the Royal Sun which was only made possible by mechanical excavation which must have destabalised the rock face up there to some extent.  I wonder whether Sir Isaac Newton thought up his first law of motion on a visit to Los Gigantes ("if a body is at rest it will remain at rest unless it is acted upon by a force").  In other words, don't muck about with  a cliff face.

    I hope that the Council does not limit the technical study to the Cliffs but extend it to the rock face just along from the Royal Sun. When staying at the Royal Sun I recall noticing only a one metre wide gap at the rear of the complex between the building and the hewn out rock face - not much of a barrier should the earth decide to move.   I also recall last year (when walking past the new  Laderas de Argel development to the Royal Sun) seeing  movement cracks on the road surface running  parrallel  to the rock face.  This should be investigated too Councillor  Mc Kenna.

    orange

    Re: Rock fall on Los Gigantes beach
    « Reply #32 on: November 19, 2009 »
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  • I can only imagine that after this incident, a full and long study will be made.

    No doubt there have been previous studies before the more modern buildings
    were constructed.

    The worse scenario is that there is a underlying and previously unknown ground fault.

    Balancing the risk now, I would look at a minimum of 2 years as quick passive
    protection would not appear to be suitable, looking at the amount of rockfall.

    The end solution being one of great underpin and barrage. Having the money
    to do this all at once is another matter...

    ladygee2

    Re: Rock fall on Los Gigantes beach
    « Reply #33 on: November 20, 2009 »
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  • I wish to extend my sympathies to the families of the two women who were killed in the rock fall, and now having done that I'd like to make a comment about the statements made by the Santiago del Teide mayor, Senor Gorrin, in relation to the tragic event.

     It would seem that, Senor Gorrin,  like all politicians is trying to 'pass the buck' when some thing like this happens. Party politics should not 'come into play', especially, after the lives of those two women being lost. Bureaucracy, whether it be of the Canarian variety or otherwise is to blame for this tragic accident occurring. It doesn't matter whether you're a socialist, a nationalist, a conservative or a liberal. If you're elected to office or work in the public sector your job is to serve and protect the public to the best of one's abilities. That's what working in the Public Service is all about and party politics should come second to that!

    Going by what I've read to date on the tragic event there was an earlier rock fall back in early October. Why wasn't that particular area of the beach cordoned off better than it was. May be if a better job had been done back then this particular tragedy mightn't have happened? One can only speculate? I say stop the 'blame game' and get on with doing the job that needs to be done, and quickly!!!!!

    NikkiGQ

    Re: Rock fall on Los Gigantes beach
    « Reply #34 on: November 21, 2009 »
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  • Since this awful accident in Los gigantes, the local coucil have taken a battering and rightly so,,Im afraid this island politics has always been about correcting accidents after theyve happened, not preventative measures.

    There are constant videos of the meetings happening in santiago del Teide, with blame been thrown around between the
    councillers.

                                                          www.eldigitaldecanarias.net




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    Re: Rock fall on Los Gigantes beach
    « Reply #35 on: December 13, 2009 »
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  • Mayor called to account for discrepancies in reports on Los Gigantes tragedy
    Arona?s Number 3 Court has called Mayor of Santiago del Teide, Juan Dami?n Gorr?n, to give evidence and answer questions on the 21 January in the wake of the Police inquiry into the tragedy at Los Gu?os beach when a rockfall killed two women on 1 November.

    In addition to Mayor Gorr?n, a municipal technician and a representative from the Department of Costas have also been required to attend Court. The presence of further individuals may yet be demanded by the Court.

    Sr Gorr?n testified to the Guardia Civil inquiry that he did not actually know, as he had previously asserted, whether there were barriers in place marking off the tragic area as dangerous, but that he had been told this was the case by the lifeguard on duty.

    He further said that he had not received any recommendation to close the beach from municipal technicians or the Department of Costas. It appears now that this contradicts the evidence given to the Guardia Civil by the Chief of Santiago del Teide?s Polic?a Local.

    Source; El Dia

    ladygee2

    Re: Rock fall on Los Gigantes beach
    « Reply #36 on: December 13, 2009 »
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  • Talk about the 'right hand not knowing what the left hand was doing'!!!! I think the Mayor is going to have a lot of embarrassing questions to answer when he appears in court in Arona in January! And no harm either!!!!

    I know that I'm a complete outsider, but this latest piece of information in relation what Senor Gorrin is supposed to have or haven't said about knowing whether the section of the beach where the earlier rockfall happened had been cordoned off properly or not 'just takes the biscuit' altogether!!!! I'm sorry to have to say this, but it would seem that most of the voters in the Sanitago del Teide Municipality have only themselves to blame for voting in the local council and Senor Gorrin as Mayor. The sooner the next elections come around the better,it would seem for you to have a chance to get rid of the whole bloody lot of them!!!!!

    ladygee2

    Re: Rock fall on Los Gigantes beach
    « Reply #37 on: December 14, 2009 »
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  • In my earlier comments about the political 'goings on', within the Santiago del Teide Municipality I want to make it quite clear that those comments in no way relate to Councillor McKenna. I would be nearly be safe in saying that he is most likely fighting a losing battle with all of the 'goings on' that seem to be happening within the Municipality.

    phoenix

    Re: Rock fall on Los Gigantes beach
    « Reply #38 on: December 14, 2009 »
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  • ?Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.?

    Some of us never get any better at it, even with an awful lot of practice.

    ladygee2

    Re: Rock fall on Los Gigantes beach
    « Reply #39 on: December 14, 2009 »
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  •  You really couldn't have summed it up better, Phoenix!!!!

    What is it about the majority of politicians once they've been elected? Do they suddenly go through a process of transformation or what that turns them into Jekyll and Hyde characters?