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N.I.E numbers
« on: July 05, 2013 »
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  • Are the numbers for life or do they expire. A friend of mine has a delivery awaiting clearance from customs in Santa Cruz and they have been told the N.I.E have expired so they cannot release or deliver, I have never ever heard of this happening before. Also if you get an N.I.E issued on the mainland is that valid here in Tenerife

    Offline White Rose

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    Re: N.I.E numbers
    « Reply #1 on: July 06, 2013 »
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  • I've Google this, is it any good to you ?   http://www.allabroad.es/?p=2508d   
    It's very confusing some sites say it's valid for life just like a UK National Insurance number.

    Offline ANGIE

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    Re: N.I.E numbers
    « Reply #2 on: July 06, 2013 »
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  • Took friends to get NIE  recently and police advised it is valid for three months, but the actual number stays the same for life. You only really need to renew if moving house when the Notair may well ask for a valid number, but there again, depends on the Notair at the time of legalities being done.

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    Re: N.I.E numbers
    « Reply #3 on: July 06, 2013 »
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  • we don't live in Tenerife but own an apartment there, we  bank with La Caixa and they renew our certificate automatically bi-annually, I've just checked and when it was last done in Oct 2012 it was 26.25 each

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    Re: N.I.E numbers
    « Reply #4 on: July 06, 2013 »
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  • Can't remember how much it was via police station and local bank, but much less than €26 odd. Why would you need to renew bi-annually? We also bank with La Caixa but no mention has ever been made of us needing to do this and we live Tenerife Six months each year. Seems they are making a profit by doing this. The police assured us we only ever needed to update our certificate in the event of a major ur chase where it was necessary to show an up to date NIE, like buying property or a car. Your number stays constant for your lifetime.

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    Re: N.I.E numbers
    « Reply #5 on: July 07, 2013 »
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  • I'm always amused by the number of "bar room lawyers" in Tenerife, particularly those who don't live here and some "swallow" who think they know everything.

    I'm reproducing part of Diana McGlone's (the One stop Problem Shop) website here.  She's not a lawyer but she DOES know what she's talking about, take note, those that want to know the facts...

    What type of "residencia" residence document should I have?
    This information correct as at March 2013
    Here are the basic requirements for adult EU citizens in Tenerife Spain:
    1) White NIE certificate valid for up to 3 months - then superceded by either 2 or 3 depending on your status · copy and original of application form Ex15 and Modelo 790 for a 9,37 euro payment in the bank, copy and original of your passport when you attend the National Police Station /Extranjeria. Certificate issued on the day. If you already have an NIE number this stays with you for life and you can then jump to point 2 or 3 depending on your circumstances.
    2) Green Certificate of registro -from November 2011 this is in a credit card sized format but still made of paper, for indefinite or fixed length stays of over 3 months · 1 copy of application form Ex18, Modelo 790 for a 10,40 euro payment, 1 passport type photo, photocopy and original of Passport and photocopy and original of an in date Empadronamiento plus new requirements from July 2012

        For those who are working - you must provide the original and copy of your current work contract or a certificate to show that you are currently making social security contributions
        For those who are self employed you must provide the original and copies of your self employment documentation or a certificate to show you are still registered as self employed and a certificate to show that you are currently making social security contributions.
        For the retired, early retired or those living on own means you must provide the original and copies of private health care to cover you for the period of your residence in Spain, or for EU pensioners a copy of your S1 document showing entitlement to health care in Spain funded by the UK AND a valid European health card isued from the UK. You must also provide proof of income sufficient to support you and your family (normally circa 5,200 per person in a Spanish Bank Account or Proof of Guaranteed Income equating to more than that amount per anum (officially translated into Spanish)
        With regard to economic means, a fixed amount can not be set, but the personal situation of each national of a Member State of the European Union or another State party to the Agreement on the European Economic Europe should be taken into account. In no case, shall this amount be less than the level of resources below which social assistance is granted to a Spanish National or the amount of a Spanish Social Security pension. Documents not in the Spanish language must be apostilled and legally translated.
        For those who have already completed 5 LEGALLY registered years of residence and providing their renewal application follows on with out a gap - these people will only be required to provide the basic documentation as shown in point 2 above

    when you attend the National Police station/Extranjeria the document will be issued on the spot. Please Note Temporary Freeze on issuing residencias is now lifted see here http://www.diana-mcglone.com/#NewRegsResidencia http://www.boe.es/boe/dias/2012/07/10/pdfs/BOE-A-2012-9218.pdf
    3) Certificate of NON residence for Spanish Bank - stays in TOTAL of under 6 months in any one year · Original & copy of application form Ex15, Modelo 790 for a 10,40 euro payment, photocopy and original of Passport when you attend the National Police station/Extranjeria· Issued 3 to 4 working days later. Most Banks will see to this on your behalf if you have a non-residents bank account with them, but they do make a charge for the service. 

    t l c

    Re: N.I.E numbers
    « Reply #6 on: July 07, 2013 »
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  • Great reply, thank you very much & forgive my genuine ignorance, I also live here and am not aware of all the facts, people LEARN and become aware and forums like this are here to help, replies like yours are a great help as it saves trawling through the internet and the 'grey' areas that also can throw up. Do you think that is a genuine reason why the goods will not be released from customs at Santa Cruz, seems a bit odd that they would say the N.I.E has expired, is N.I.E obtained on the mainland valid here in the Canaries

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    Re: N.I.E numbers
    « Reply #7 on: July 07, 2013 »
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  • thanks for that info seems like we need to go into La Caixa next time we're in Tenerife and and ask what we're being charged for. 

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    Re: N.I.E numbers
    « Reply #8 on: July 07, 2013 »
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  • Please don't reply to me like that amibovered, I was only trying to be helpful and relate the experience we had. I'm not making it up honest!

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    Re: N.I.E numbers
    « Reply #9 on: July 07, 2013 »
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  • Your NIE number is valid in mainland Spain as well as in the Canaries.  I live in Spain but also have a property in Los Gigantes and the same NIE number is valid in both.  I've also never renewed it in 20 years!!

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    Re: N.I.E numbers
    « Reply #10 on: July 08, 2013 »
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  • Angie, don't worry about Amibovvered, he's an *ss*ole. I understand he is on many forums under different names.

    t l c

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    « Reply #11 on: July 08, 2013 »
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  • thanks for all the replies

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    Re: N.I.E numbers
    « Reply #12 on: July 08, 2013 »
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  • Thank you pilgrim, I feel much better now! Good of you to take the time to post x