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Offline amibovvered

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Re: Is there anybody there?
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2009 »
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  • Your response Northernboy is exactly the example of unpleasantness that this site does not need. Why OH WHY would I want people to feel sorry for me. Are you mad, I have a brilliant and comfortable lifestyle here with a multitude of friends and a terrific social life. If you know who owns Tajinaste, why the comment, please dont answer because I really have had enough of this message board now. You obviously have not read the entertainment posts were some of our talented singers were referred to as Karaoke singers. You can voice your opinion if you disagree but there is no need for rudeness and unpleasantness.

    Put these words in their correct order

    Throwing am pram of my out I dummy my

    amunette

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    « Reply #31 on: July 31, 2009 »
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    You obviously have not read the entertainment posts were some of our talented singers were referred to as Karaoke singers. You can voice your opinion if you disagree but there is no need for rudeness and unpleasantness.

    Chrissi, I was pointing out those competitions are like karaoke competitions, like X Factor etc. They are to me as unless you are singing your own songs you are just doing upmarket karaoke!!!!!!!! No disrespect to the singers, I am sure they are wonderful, but covers bands are in my opinion just good karaoke. :) That is in no way being nasty.

    northernboy

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    « Reply #32 on: July 31, 2009 »
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    You obviously have not read the entertainment posts were some of our talented singers were referred to as Karaoke singers. You can voice your opinion if you disagree but there is no need for rudeness and unpleasantness.

    Chrissi, I was pointing out those competitions are like karaoke competitions, like X Factor etc. They are to me as unless you are singing your own songs you are just doing upmarket karaoke!!!!!!!! No disrespect to the singers, I am sure they are wonderful, but covers bands are in my opinion just good karaoke. :) That is in no way being nasty.

    I think it is a waste of time, it as come across to me loud and clear that if anybodys opinion does not agree with her opinion, then you are not allowed to have one.

    poolepirate

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    « Reply #33 on: July 31, 2009 »
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  • Getting back on topic. The village has been quite busy for the past week or more.

    Busy today. Cafes by the Marina quite full.

    Boat trips busy.

    Parking as always is difficult which must put some off.

    Paraiso del Sol was packed to overflowing on Wednesday evening as was Casa Pedro last week same evening.

    The guy who works outside Paraiso del Sol is quite a charachter and sure pulls the custom.


    Caroline

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    « Reply #34 on: August 01, 2009 »
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  • That's good news.  At this time 2 weeks today I will be enjoying my brekkie in LG, yippeeee !!

    Out of interest, and relevant to topic I think.  A friend of mine has just returned from Tenerife (got back on Wed).  They weren't staying in LG, but on my advice decided to spend some time there.  He told me that he could see what I'd been banging on about for years and agreed that it was a lovely place for a holiday and if they return to Tenerife they'd definitely change location to LG.  I asked him if LG was busy (as I'd been following this thread) and he said that it definitely wasn't quiet and there seemed to be plenty of tourists around - but he said that he liked that it wasn't too busy, as that's off putting too. 

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    « Reply #35 on: August 01, 2009 »
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  • ** Puts Flack Jacket On and firmly buttons it up**

    LG is quiet.  In relative terms it has been getting quieter progressively over the past few years, and especially so this year.

    It has been debated many times here and elsewhere, but there are reasons.

    I do not doubt for a moment that it appears busy around the harbour and the boats seem full, but please, the vast majority of customers on the boats are coached in from across the south, dropped at the top of the hill, and collected from there a few hours later.  To claim that these are visitors who have made their own decisions to visit LG is, unfortunately, not the case.  The "swarms" of people milling around the harbour and the bars there are doing so whilst they are waiting for their coach to take them back to their 4/5 star all inclusive hotel in Fanabe or wherever.

    LG is no longer a tourist resort, it is a residential village which grew out of massive promotion in the 80's and 90's where it was an alternative to the Club 18-30 scene in Las Americas, but at the same time had a degree of night-life.  The problem was that, understandably, a lot of people liked the area and decided to buy apartments, duplexes and houses.  What they didn't realise though is how annoying the night-life can be when you live above it week after week, so progressively the "curfew" began to kick in.

    That level of night-life will never return to the area, apart from anything else there are not enough visitors to sustain it, but even if there were, the residents would not tolerate it.  The fuss and effort it takes to obtain permission for an outdoor event, and the complaints that flood in when such an event takes place has been well recorded on this board by the few that have tried recently.

    Local prices are not that bad in comparison to the rest of the island, so that isn't the problem especially if you use the the local bars (Bar Central etc).

    Boat trips are not that cheap, but generally good value.

    The problem however is, if you have young children and teens, there is precious little for them to do other than catch the 1130pm 473 bus to Las Americas and the first one back the next morning, and not many parents will be too happy about that!

    As a resort LG does not have much to offer over and above anywhere else, in fact in many aspects it has less.  It is therefore perfect for the 50 or 60 year old visitors who want a quiet break, but pretty unsuitable for the 20, 30 and 40 something year olds who want something to do in the evening for themselves or their families.

    Yes there is TJ's, yes there is Route 66, yes there is Highland Paddy, BUT visitors are here for 13 or 14 nights, and with many of the afore mentioned having the same acts 3, 4 or even 5 nights a week there is not much variety to chose from and they are all effectively locked up by 1155pm

    It is, essentially a residential area which is lucky enough to have a harbour from where boat trips operate.  The sad thing is that the best asset (the harbour) is privately owned and outside the control of the local authority and as a result is not the most pleasant place to visit unless you are there for a reason (boat trips, diving etc) (unless you are a real fan of inhaling carbon monoxide with your drink or meal).

    My worry is the planned development of Fonsilia as a harbour.  In the longer term I would place a few bob on most of the boat trips relocating there, and when they do, the true state of the village will be obvious for us all to see.

    I know many have been pressing for improvements for years, and some saw Steve's election to the council as a huge move in the right direction.  Sadly, in light of recent developments, I can't see that continuing much longer.

    I'm sure there is a solution, but it will take a strong and universal effort by the local authority to kick it off and maintain momentum and one thing is for certain right now - it ain't gonna happen for a while yet - will it ever is the question?.


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    Re: Is there anybody there?
    « Reply #36 on: August 01, 2009 »
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  • Well said Mr Max, that was the most comprehensive and sensible opinion for a long time, and I agree entirely.
    I have often said to my daughter how we love L.G. and her reply is always the same, that it is fine for you but having kids with us they would be bored to death.
    It suits us though, so we keep right on coming back and yes it has changed over the years.
    I well remember renting an apartment over the disco in the harbour and no we didn't realise when we booked it, but if people buy in a noisy area, they have a flipping cheek to moan when it gets noisy.

    amunette

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    « Reply #37 on: August 01, 2009 »
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  • Excellent post Mr Max!!! 

    northernboy

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    « Reply #38 on: August 01, 2009 »
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  • Mr Max once again you come up with the goods, I agree with nearly everything you had said, but hey we all have our own opinion.

    What I appreciate about most of your posting is, that you are a resident, who does not walk about wearing tinted glasses, and will tell it the way it is, not the way people would like it to be.

    Once again thanks a posting with  so much sense

    freddy

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    « Reply #39 on: August 01, 2009 »
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  • nice post Mr max, are you not the man that rented the wine bar, then rented the harbour club???????????????

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    « Reply #40 on: August 01, 2009 »
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  • Indeed, I am, not, the man who did the above!


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    « Reply #42 on: August 01, 2009 »
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  • Looks like Calypso, thought that had just got new owners?

    jambo

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    « Reply #43 on: August 01, 2009 »
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  • Spot on Mr Max. A well considered and accurate post.

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    « Reply #44 on: August 01, 2009 »
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  • Is there anybody there ?

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    How funny!  You really would have thought that at least one picture would have at least one person in it, somewhere (although there is one lady who looks like she is hiding in one of them).

    Great advert for a busy bar in a busy and thriving location!!

    See here :- http://www.lottiejohnson.com/B0018.html

    Bargain !
    « Last Edit: August 01, 2009 by Mr Max »

    Caroline

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    « Reply #45 on: August 02, 2009 »
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  • I read Mr Max's post with some sadness.  An obviously truthful and knowledgable report on what is happening and might happen to Los Gigantes in the future.  I just wanted to add that I am probably guilty of being one of the people with rose-tinted glasses, who sees LG as a lovely place to go on my holidays and not thinking of the people who live there and are trying to make a living.  I'm not a resident and don't own a business there - so I can see and understand why there are strong opinions on this subject from people who are.  However, I don't apologise for my rose-tinted glasses as I think I am a good ambassador for LG as I tell all my network of family and friends in the UK how much I love it and enjoy my time there - these may be the visitors (or dare I say it - tourists) of the future. 

    My hubbie and I are in our early 40's and have a young son (10) - incidentally he loves it there too and is happy to go again this year.  He told us last year it was his best holiday ever (and he's been to Florida and Lapland!)  This year we're bringing our extended family with us and I'm sure they'll love it just as much as we do.  Mind you my mum-in-law is not good (or in the best of moods!) when the weather is too hot and I've been reading with some trepidation the reports on the current heatwave LG is experiencing.  Have decided not to tell her yet - in the hope that it might cool down a bit by the time we arrive on the 14th!  You'll spot me instantly - I'll be wearing my rose-tinted glasses !!   ;)

    mariner

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    « Reply #46 on: August 03, 2009 »
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  • Hi.
    Just got back from LG on Saturday after spending 2 weeks there, and have read the above thread with interest.
    We have been coming to LG for many years now, and yes, we have certainly seen a gradual downturn in the number of people in the village, bars, restaurants etc, but as one restaurant owner suggested, could this be down to the number of hotels in the area now offering all-inclusive deals? Personally, we prefer self catering as we like to visit a different restaurant every night and don't want to be stuck in one hotel for 14 nights. But others may be happy to do so.

    Some other observations:

    Tajinaste - had 2 absolutely brilliant nights there. Great LIVE music from It's Immaterial on the first Sunday, and from Toby and Sue on the second. Food superb, and good value for money. What a little gem that place is.

    TJ's - What we would call cheap and cheerful. Different artist every night, some good and some not so good, but entertaining anyway.

    Domingo's - Used to be always full, but we noticed that even at 10.00pm most nights it was very quiet even with entertainment on every night. Most people seemed to be in TJ's where the drinks were cheaper!

    Bamboo Bar ? Good cheap pub with 9 happy hours each day. What more could you ask for?

    El Pescador, Jardin del Sol, Krishna?s, Tipsy Terrance, Paraiso del Sol, Harbour Lites ? we had good meals in all of these restaurants and the prices were reasonable.
    Downside was Little Italy ?.

    Marina in general ? very quiet at night. On the evening we visited Harbour Lites, there was hardly anyone down there, and most bars seemed to be closing by 11.00pm

    But hey, all in all a great holiday (our 9 year old daughter loves LG ? whether she does when she?s a teenager we will have to wait and see) and we will no doubt be back again next year for more of the same.


    Chrissi

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    « Reply #47 on: August 06, 2009 »
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  • Mariner What a great post and must be a great comfort to Caroline who arrives with her family next week. I am so sorry that Caroline has had to read some of the posts on this subject when she and her family are coming here on holiday and having to read all the negative thoughts.How many other tourist doing research have also seen it. Some business friends of mine here have said that they researched a holiday in another country last year and if they had read the sort of negative comments on this thread they would definately not have booked. As Mariner has posted there is so much going on in this village and I wish Caroline and her family a great holiday.
    Just as a reminder, this thread started some weeks ago and anyone that has lived here for any length of time know that in May and June and early July it is quiet as it is too hot for older people and certainly in the south of UK the children do not break up from school until the 18th/19th or so of JULY.
    Also how it was ten years ago is not how it is today, but that doesnt make it a bad place to come for a holiday etc., it is still, sorry Caroline brilliant through my rose tinted glasses.

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    « Reply #48 on: August 06, 2009 »
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  • Well, you all wanted Los Gigantes livened up.

    The village will certainly be livened up this Saturday.  There is a street party, organised by Carnival Commission, live Salsa music, foam party etc,  from 2pm until 10pm, it will take place in the street by Little Italy (Tamara).

    Caroline

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    « Reply #49 on: August 06, 2009 »
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  • Thanks very much for your post Chrissi and for wishing us a happy hols - I know it will be.  I agree it's a shame to read negative posts on one of our favourite places in the world, but it will never stop my family and I coming to Los Gig for our hols - I made my own mind up about the place years ago and it will never be swayed by the opinions of others.  Was very encouraged by Mariner's post, so thank you for that.  I am SOOOOO excited now - only a week to go!  Better start packing hadn't I - rose tinted glasses are at the ready.  See you on the 14th Los Gigantes xx