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Highly contagious bug doing the rounds
« on: January 03, 2010 »
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  • I have been struck down with the highly contagious bug that is doing the rounds in the village. It is not pleasant. The story is that many guests at the hotel have been affected. I do not associate it with the hotel however as I have not been near the place over the holidays.
    My neighbour had it before Christmas and we assumed it was one of those things. I went down with it early on New Year's Day and just couldn't get out of bed which is unlike me. Luckily the symptons are short lived albeit severe, 18-24 hours, but it has knocked me sideways.

    carboy

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    « Reply #1 on: January 03, 2010 »
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  • Is it rife in the Hotel ?

    Going there next week ... let me know if you hear anything else because i had a look on trip advisor on the reports and it has been mentioned at least twice recently .

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    Re: Highly contagious bug doing the rounds
    « Reply #2 on: January 04, 2010 »
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  • If you read my post properly. I am not blaming the hotel in any way. I repeat that I have not been near the place over the Christmas/New Year period and neither has my neighbour. It is one of those things that is 'going about' for some reason and I am wishing to advise residents to take precautions to avoid it. That is all.

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    « Reply #3 on: January 04, 2010 »
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  • My friend had it the other day and has been nowhere near the hotel.

    carboy

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  • I have been struck down with the highly contagious bug that is doing the rounds in the village. It is not pleasant. The story is that many guests at the hotel have been affected. I do not associate it with the hotel however as I have not been near the place over the holidays.
    My neighbour had it before Christmas and we assumed it was one of those things. I went down with it early on New Year's Day and just couldn't get out of bed which is unlike me. Luckily the symptons are short lived albeit severe, 18-24 hours, but it has knocked me sideways.

    I didnt say you were blaming the hotel .

    My question was is it rife in the Hotel ?


    We have just had 3 wards of our local hospital closed with a similar virus

    If that is the case i dont wish to stay there .

    POOKYBLUE

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    « Reply #5 on: January 06, 2010 »
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  • I will give you some information on this bug.
    THIS IS AN AIRBORNE BUG. It is a severe bug. You CANNOT avoid getting it.  EVERYONE is getting it. Apparently it is called the Norovirus. Everyone up at El Marques where I am staying has gotten it. It does not just go away, it stays in your system. The chemists know what?s going on and can prescribe stuff. If you are coming out here I would strongly suggest you make sure you bring plenty of medication for it. If you avoid this bug you are LUCKY. Tons of people in the village have got it and it?s literally all over this part of Tenerife.  If you are old or young it?s very dangerous and can cause death (3 people died on that ship that passed through the Canary Island). GOOD LUCK!

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    « Reply #6 on: January 11, 2010 »
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  • How is the bug doing i kjnow afew locals have still got it but is it getting less??

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    « Reply #7 on: January 11, 2010 »
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  • Hi everybody,
                      I've had a look at a couple of websites in regard to the Norovirus that seems to be doing the rounds out there in LG. Some of the contributors to this thread who have already posted messages stating that it seems to have or been rampant in one of the local hotels. Anyway, going by what was stated in those particular websites about this virus is that it can be very easily spread by people infected with the virus to other people in confined spaces,eg, to people in nursing homes, hospitals, hotels, and cruise liners. This particular type of virus has been known to go under the name of ' The Winter Vomiting Bug', which can be spread from person-to-person very easily by touch or it can be passed on like an aerosol as in somebody vomiting close by to where food is being served and the like, even after the vomit being cleaned up!!! Under cooked sea food and shellfish seem to be the main causes of the bug 'rearing it's ugly head ' from time to time. Chlorine bleach is the best way to clean surfaces that have been contaminated with the bug.

    POOKYBLUE

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    « Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010 »
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  • I just got back from Tenerife yesterday. Last week the bug seemed to be subsiding as people didn't have such severe symptoms as me and my family and they were getting it for less time. Before I left yesterday I spoke to a man there and he said his wife had been ill with it for 6 days.  The doctor has recommended that you don't eat outside in the air at all. Good luck over there and prepare!

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    « Reply #9 on: January 13, 2010 »
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  • Here's a link to an item about Norovirus on the website of the Health Protection Agency in the UK:

    http://www.hpa.org.uk/HPA/Topics/InfectiousDiseases/InfectionsAZ/1191942172966/

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    « Reply #10 on: January 14, 2010 »
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  • This bug is still around the village. The guy in the apartment from me went down with it last night. He is still very poorly. His wife escaped, mine did too. Have they got better restisance?

    orange

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    « Reply #11 on: January 15, 2010 »
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  • If you read the reviews about Los Gigantes Hotel. You will see that people are dropping
    like flies. These reviews are as recent as yesterday (14.01.2010).

    One man has ended up in Hospital in the UK with kidney failure, after falling ill there.

    The original poster was concerned on the 3 January 2010 when it was being reported then.

    I think you could say the Hotel is associated now. Given the average age of those who
    stay at this Hotel. This is serious.

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    Re: Highly contagious bug doing the rounds
    « Reply #12 on: January 17, 2010 »
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  • We have just returned after a 3 week stay and yes we had the virus.

    We did not go anywhere near the hotel being mentioned, so cannot lay any blame there.

    We got medication from the pharmacy near Viglia Park and were confined to our apartment for 3 days. 

    This is not the first time though.  Last year at the same time I was struck down with the same problem and had to call the doctor.  Anyone you talk to tourists, residents etc., are aware of the problem and it has been going on for a long time.  I do not know how the health authority works in Tenerife, but maybe it is time this problem is addressed seriously.   Tourism is suffering enough in the area without word of this "pardon the pun" spreading. 

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    « Reply #13 on: January 17, 2010 »
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  • Just to expand this problem a little, could the fact of all the pollution just offshore have any bearing.
    With the crashing of the waves making the pollution airborne perhaps this could be a contributory factor.
    Just a thought.

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    « Reply #14 on: January 17, 2010 »
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  • Interesting post Edward, we were told years ago by a local chap to keep away from the sea front chairs at the Oasis, after I went down with this bug.
    He asked if we had been sitting there, I said yes and of course we had been admiring the view and feeling the spray blowing in.Ugh!!
    Admittedly it was before they extended the pipes but we now take extra care when the sea is rough & the wind blowing in that direction, and fortunately have been OK ever since.

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    Re: Highly contagious bug doing the rounds
    « Reply #15 on: January 17, 2010 »
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  • May I say over the last two years five of our friends and family have all had this virus.  All had been drinking in the bar overlooking the sea at the Oasis.  I think there is some connection in this virus being airborne from the sea.

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    « Reply #16 on: January 17, 2010 »
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  • Tonight the smell of raw sewage yet again fills the air. What is going on? My stomach gurgles at the smell although it is over two weeks since my initial attack.

    phoenix

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    « Reply #17 on: January 17, 2010 »
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  • My wife had a bad stomach complaint several years ago. We had had  a meal outside  the restaurant as you turn into the harbour. The water was quite choppy and there was a fine spray coming over the sea wall. That was, I believe, the source of the problem. I also recall on an earlier visit  staying at the Royal Sun and watching through binoculars a frothy discharge out at sea about 30 metres from the Lido. I believe this no longer happens but I am quite sure that raw sewage is still pumped into the ocean some distance from the shore.  Inevitably, a combination of adverse wind and currents brings it back to the shore and choppy water facilitates  airborne dispersal. I think we have all seen  highly suspect area of scum  floating  about in the sea from time to time. On several occasions while staying at the hotel, waves breaking just below the terrace  created an airborne spray which was deposited over the pool and the poolside tables. So if there was any hazardous material in the sea, it would have contaminated the whole area.

    I  for one am not confident that the local council would want to get to the bottom of the problem if it meant exposing a serious problem which it could not resolve because of the costs involved. Perhaps they are hoping that in time the tide will turn and the problem will go away ? until the next time.

    orange

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    « Reply #18 on: January 17, 2010 »
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  • If these matters have the same sort of inspection that the beach rocks had...

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    « Reply #19 on: January 17, 2010 »
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  •  :( oh, s***! :'(

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    « Reply #20 on: January 17, 2010 »
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  • If these matters have the same sort of inspection that the beach rocks had...

    But you know full well that they won't........ well, not until someone looses their life.

    When are the next elections??

    carboy

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    « Reply #21 on: January 18, 2010 »
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  • Just got back after staying 7 days in the Barcelo ,

    We got ill after 2 days but no sickness just really bad headaches and a very bad cough ,

    Most people that were ill in our hotel were affected by the coughing thing ,

    Also you seemed to have shaken it off and then it comes right back at you .

    Personally i think that most of these bugs are transmitted on the plane journey over .

    Weather was great though   >:(

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    « Reply #22 on: January 18, 2010 »
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  • Just got back after staying 7 days in the Barcelo ,

    We got ill after 2 days but no sickness just really bad headaches and a very bad cough ,

    Most people that were ill in our hotel were affected by the coughing thing ,

    Also you seemed to have shaken it off and then it comes right back at you .

    Personally i think that most of these bugs are transmitted on the plane journey over .

    Weather was great though   >:(

    I agree with you, it has nothing to do with Los Gigantes or the Hotel, people are bringing this over from the Uk

    orange

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    « Reply #23 on: January 18, 2010 »
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  • There is no suggestion that the Barcelo Santiago has a health problem.

    But there are now open warnings posted about the Los Gigantes Hotel.

    "This Hotel has a serious problem with a norovirus outbreak" (17.01.10)

    I would be very concerned if I was about to stop there.

    Thomson are linking to these reviews as well.

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    « Reply #24 on: January 19, 2010 »
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  • this is the problem with all inclusive hotels, you are all together socially 24/7, one bug can whistle around within hours, same with nursing homes, cruises, etc.

    i hope it doesnt put people off los gigantes, but, perhaps people should avoid these type of hotels.  to get an apartment and use the resort like a hotel for eating, drinking, entertainment would be a lot healthier both for guests and local businesses!  i know that the all inclusive price is a big pull for a lot of people, but, surely health on holiday is more important.

    on saying that, we priced the hotel los gigantes for may 2010 and it wasnt a cheap holiday at all - we have decided to rent an apartment again.  we'll just have to 'eat in' a  few evenings and go down to the village for a drink later!

    phoenix

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    « Reply #25 on: January 19, 2010 »
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  • Thomson are still taking bookings for the hotel. They have a duty of care to their customers and if the problem is very serious in terms of numbers infected and the severity of the sickness then Thomson  should give serious consideration to closing the hotel and relocating customers, or at least warning them before they take off  thus giving them the opportunity to cancel (or to volunteer  to take the risk).

    I recall several years ago reading in the Tenerife Sun that a tour operator (maybe Thomson) was directed to compensate a family of tourists who were not warned when they booked their holiday about the peckers working up by the Royal Sun. So any victims of the bug who were not warned before booking about a known serious risk  should consider writing to Thomson to ask for compensation.

    I am a big fan of the hotel, particularly the restaurant which is unquestionably the best in the area, despite the current problems some people are having in keeping the food down.

    orange

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    « Reply #26 on: January 19, 2010 »
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  • Yes given the age of the clients they attract.

    Its not as if you can keep your own space there
    with lifts akin to levitating broom cupboards...

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    « Reply #27 on: January 19, 2010 »
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  • When will you lot get the message the virus has nothing to do with the hotel. It appears to be a village localised situation which includes the hotel. I have not been near the hotel, well 20 meters, and neither have the twenty or so friends here that I have heard of and we are just one small community. Loads of other locals have been similarly affected.

    The disease seems to be very widespread in the UK and the rest of Europe.


    orange

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    « Reply #28 on: January 21, 2010 »
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  • It is now over a month since reviews of the Hotel Los Gigantes
    mentioned the stomach problems with an escalation of the
    seriousness.

    Those people do not mention anything outside the Hotel.
    They cite poor hygiene, other internal matters and lack of precaution.

     


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    « Reply #29 on: January 25, 2010 »
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  • It is now over a month since reviews of the Hotel Los Gigantes
    mentioned the stomach problems with an escalation of the
    seriousness.

    Those people do not mention anything outside the Hotel.
    They cite poor hygiene, other internal matters and lack of precaution.

    I guess that those people who stayed in the hotel also go outside and while they are visiting the shops and restaurants, they are touching things and passing on their germs, so infecting the local community rather than the other way around.  I suspect few who live in the area visit the hotel.