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dolphin babe

 I am organising a raffle in aid of the
abandoned dogs at Dingo Dogs Sanctuary.
If anyone would like to donate or buy some raffle tickets please contact me.

The Raffle
1st prize:- Horse Riding for Two.
Donated by Tia at Ranch Grande in Amarilla Golf.

2nd Prize:- Discover Scuber Dive
donated by Gavin & Carole from scuba divers training.

3rd Prize:- 2 hour session of relaxation and gentle breath work known as "Re-birthing"
donated by Trisha at Healing In the Light.

To be a big winner and keep those tails wagging at the sanctuary



Saturday 13th September at 8pm

The raffle will be held at a low key event at Tispy terrace Los Gigantes have "Sweet Harmony" unplugged playing.
Please pm me to say if you are going to come on the night.

www.tispy-terrace.com

« Last Edit: September 09, 2008 by dolphin babe »

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Just to let folks know that 476 Euros were raised for Dingo Dogs last night.

Thanks again to Sally at Tipsy Terrace for their hospitality.

flossie

I?m sorry Dingo Dogs but your ad has been bugging me since it was posted.

Why is the village supporting an illegal charity?  Their web site shows neither an address,  a charity number,  nor a fiscal number!   They are not even from our area.

Please someone, do correct me if I?m wrong but it does look fishy to me.

We have 2 legally registered animal charities in our municipality of Santiago del Teide, ?Friends of the Animals? and ?San Francisco Amigos de los Animales?, surely we should give them our support ? not outsiders.

june mcloud

Yes, i have to agree with Flossie on this one. Shame on the sports center for letting this happen. All the money should be kept in the Santiago Del Tedie area. So the next time someone finds a cat or dog lets take them to the sports center and leave them there. That's fare i think Flossie.

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I?m sorry Dingo Dogs but your ad has been bugging me since it was posted.

Why is the village supporting an illegal charity?  Their web site shows neither an address,  a charity number,  nor a fiscal number!   They are not even from our area.

Please someone, do correct me if I?m wrong but it does look fishy to me.

We have 2 legally registered animal charities in our municipality of Santiago del Teide, ?Friends of the Animals? and ?San Francisco Amigos de los Animales?, surely we should give them our support ? not outsiders.



What an absolute load of rubbish.  Dingo Dogs IS a registered charity and the work that the owner of the sanctuary does is to be praised.  Perhaps you should have done a little more research before you posted ill informed criticism.  Oh, and before you ask I also contribute to the other animal charities in the area, in fact my better half is involved in their fund raising activities for October 4th.
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Yes, i have to agree with Flossie on this one. Shame on the sports center for letting this happen. All the money should be kept in the Santiago Del Tedie area. So the next time someone finds a cat or dog lets take them to the sports center and leave them there. That's fare i think Flossie.

I hope you read my post above this one as your ill informed and spiteful post deserves the same treatment.  Having said that, I'll have a word with Sally, the owner of Tipsy Terrace and tell her to look out for some nutter dumping stray animals in the car park.

freddy

oh dear ;D ;D
i think Flossie has upset amibovvered big style 8) 8).
its always great reading this board, never a dull moment

flossie

So why can I not find any record at all of their Charity Number or their fiscal Identity on their web site, which would show them to be legitimate.  As you seem to know so much about it amibovvered perhaps you'd like to post the information on this board for us all to see.

There have been many fake causes over the years, claiming to be charities so please forgive my scepticism.  If proven wrong I will withdraw my statement, but I still believe they should stay in their own neck of the woods.

freddy

Flossie
I'm with you, a  friend of mine spoke to stephen mckenna, he said he would look into it.
Its  all  sounding too fishy.
Does anybody  remember  KIND
ONE  BIG  CON
This by the sounds of it  is  not  far  behind.
If amibovverered would  like  to contact stephen mckenna the  local
councilor, and convince  him.
                                                        jason

flossie

................mmmm Amibovvered has still not got back to us with a charity number and Fiscal Identy Number, still looks highly suspect to me.

Acociaci?n  San Francisco de los Animales display both numbers very clearly on every page of their web site.

amunette

Jesus Christ, what is wrong with people. So what if it's not registered? They are helping animals, that is what is important. As for the pathetic "outsiders" comment, that is what I have grown to expect from the petty minded snobs who populate Santiago del Teide area. You are ALL outsiders to the Canarians!!.

Tenerife is a small island and could do without this kind of childish devisive thinking. The sanctury is by Alcala for goodness sake, not the other end of the flaming island >:(
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june mcloud

Anunette, if it just by Alcala why did they not find a venue just by Alcala, instead of poaching in Santiago Del Tedie area. I know that people in los Gigantes, when they need help or they have found a stray cat or dog, they always phone Judith noble. My point is if Dingo dogs want too take out money from los gigantes, they MUST be willing to help. So if you were so kind, lets put there number on this board and also with the local police station, where i know Judith nobles number is. I think that  is  fare and lets see what dingo dogs can do for the stray and abandon animals.
Oh yes I'm not childish or a snob thankyou very much or even a pathetic outsider.
mind your manners

flossie

So what if it's not registered?   Are they not acting illegally if they are not registered?

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I have informed, by email, the vise president of Dingo Dogs about this string and invited him to comment on this board, in the hope of putting this sting to bed.

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if it just by Alcala why did they not find a venue just by Alcala, instead of poaching in Santiago Del Tedie area. I know that people in los Gigantes, when they need help or they have found a stray cat or dog, they always phone Judith noble. My point is if Dingo dogs want too take out money from los gigantes, they MUST be willing to help. So if you were so kind, lets put there number on this board and also with the local police station, where i know Judith nobles number is. I think that  is  fare and lets see what dingo dogs can do for the stray and abandon animals.
Oh yes I'm not childish or a snob thankyou very much or even a pathetic outsider.
mind your manners

Poaching? WTF?!!(sorry Dolly). So if a stray wanders over the border between Guia and Santiago, what do we do? Put it back in it's rightful municipal for help? Jeez, the Dingo Dogs people have been well know for helping animals no matter what their postcode, for many years. My other half(Canarian) knows the guy involved, and says he is an amazing bloke who would give his last mouthful of food to save an animal.

Shame on you pedantic people who insist on making boundaries important and trying to make an issue out of animal rescue.

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Have to agree there they should all work together and support each other its not a business it s a charity.Dont need boundaries

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Poaching? WTF?!!(sorry Dolly). So if a stray wanders over the border between Guia and Santiago, what do we do? Put it back in it's rightful municipal for help? Jeez, the Dingo Dogs people have been well know for helping animals no matter what their postcode, for many years. My other half(Canarian) knows the guy involved, and says he is an amazing bloke who would give his last mouthful of food to save an animal.

Shame on you pedantic people who insist on making boundaries important and trying to make an issue out of animal rescue.

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I'm obviously with you on this one Amunette (and "Linda" it appears) and will be posting the details of Dingo Dogs later but if in the meantime "flossie", "freddy" and/or "june mcloud" would like to meet with me to better explain their pedantic attitude, please send me a PM and I'll be there.  Maybe they could ask Judith Noble, who I know well, to join us, but then, I don't think she would share your views.  Either way I'll ask her next time I'm in contact with her.

I'll be back .......... later.

flossie

Sorry I can?t match your language skills Amunette!

What if myself and a couple of friends got a bored 15yr old to come up with a web site, then we set ourselves up in Los Gigantes square and started to raise money for the local animals.
 
Without a charity number and fiscal identity would we not not be questioned by locals, the police, the authorities?  Most people like to know exactly where their money is going before they part with it.
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Falstaff

Many organisations raise money for good causes without being a registered charity. The fact that they are not registered does not imply that they are fraudsters and if an organisation does choose to register then that?s no guarantee that money will not be misappropriated.  Do you remember Robert Maxwell. He had all the right bits of paper but that didn?t stop him from stealing hundreds on millions of pounds from Mirror pensioners.

Dingo Dogs Sanctuary seem well intentioned. The donors of the prizes vouch for the integrity of the organisation as do members of this message board and that?s good enough for me.  Well done to them for raising  476 Euros. I?m sure the dogs will be wagging their tales.

And as for the issue of it not being local enough, some people have clearly not understood the charity concept.

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Sorry I can?t match your language skills Amunette!

It's people like you that drive sane people to swear!!!

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What if myself and a couple of friends got a bored 15yr old to come up with a web site, then we set ourselves up in Los Gigantes square and started to raise money for the local animals.
 
Without a charity number and fiscal identity would we not not be questioned by locals, the police, the authorities?  Most people like to know exactly where their money is going before they part with it.

The man who runs Dingo Dogs has been on the island for years. He is well know and well respected by the local Canarian population.  He is also well known amongst the charity-for-animals type of people. Just because you personally, as an incoming Brit, have no knowledge of him/them does not make it a fraudulant cause. 

Andy0210

Firstly i would like to introduce myself, my name is Andy and i have been private messaged on another forum to come on here and reply to this thread by DollyDiver.
She has posted that she has Pm'd the Vice President of Dingo's Dog Rescue to visit this forum and confirm that it is actually a charity. I have to admit that i am not sure if i am actually Vice President as yet as the forms were only filled in two weeks ago to give me that position and authority but if not then the paperwork is being processed and i soon will be so i feel i am more than able to answer your questions.
Dingo's Dog Rescue has been around for years, Phil has land on the hillside, technically above Alcala and also Playa de La Arena as it is in the middle.
To the best of my knowledge Dingo's is a registered charity with the Canarian Authorities although i have to admit i haven't seen the papers to prove it but tomorrow i will be asking to see them, i know they exist as when Dingos was set up as a charity it was done so with the help of Eugenio at Live Arico, now i am sure you know about him, i also have to query if this was him organising a raffle would you be so hasty to complain?
Also two years ago i used to own my own business in Puerto Colon and we had a Dingos collecting tin with a registered charity number on there.
Phil asked me to be President as he wanted someone he knew well, had known for a long time and also someone he could trust, i was honoured to accept.
Phil has worked closely with K9, Live Arico, Friends of the Animals and many others in recent times and i am sure a phone call to any of these people would put all your minds at rest that this is a genuine rescue.
Please feel free to search Dingos on www.tenerifeforum.com and see all the posts from "Tia, Suzy Q, (both of live arico) Pat the Cat (K9) all offering support and help in any way they can, look closely you will find one from Tia, who is actually Karen from Live Arico offering to run a Live Arico & Dingos joint charity fundraising night. In fact Karen from Live Arico donated the first prize in the raffle of the horse riding for 2.
Now i am sure if Karen from Live Arico doesn't object to Dingos raising a little cash to help support the dogs up there then you lot shouldn't as well, after all they have 180 dogs of their own to feed.
As for borders for fundraising what are you trying to say? K9 should only raise money in San Miguel? Live Arico shouldn't encroach past the border of Amarilla Golf? This is absolute rubbish and you lot know it, Dingos is about 5 km from Gigantes are you saying that 3.5 miles is too far away to raise money to feed and care for the dogs? That's like saying Cancer rescue should only stand in Cancer wards!
People have a choice, nobody in Los Gigantes had to donate if they didn't want to, nobody was forced at gunpoint to buy tickets, everybody was happy to buy them and a good night was had by all who attended, and if the Santiago del Teide rescue had asked Tipsy terrace then i am sure they would have accommodated them and probably still will although the threat to dump stray animals there might have ruined that for them.
As for the Slur on Alex saying about some 15 yr old collecting money, Alex worked her socks off to do this and if you check the other forum i mentioned earlier you will see why, for personal reasons they are returning to England, they can't take the dogs back for six months until the rabies injections are cleared, Dingos is boarding the dogs for six months for free and Alex wanted to do something for the Rescue in order to repay them. Her user name is "dolphinbabe" as i am sure that some of you will be petty enough to do this.
All the monies raised from the Raffle can be accounted for, it has been spent on food, 20 x 20 kg bags from the Mercadona in Playa de la Arena, which they delivered and we have a receipt for the purchase and most of the remainder spent in the Ferreteria in Chio for fencing and other Materials to improve and secure the rescue.
Phil kept everything legitimate and even has all the unsold tickets available for inspection if required.
The reason that the website has no charity number on it is that  it was donated and done for free pretty much without Phils knowledge by another TenerifeForum member "polar1920" who did it as a goodwill gesture as they are animal lovers and impressed by what Phil does up there but these people wouldn't know these details.
This guy doesn't get the help and support that the other rescues do, he does it all on his own with his friend Leigh, he works on the rescue all day and then walks 4 km to the bus stop, busks until the early hours of the morning then collects food from the hotel bins which gets thrown out and put to one side for him, sometimes 100kg or more but sometimes nothing and pushes it back in his little cart gets the bus home at 6 a.m and walks the 4k back to the rescue.
I have to say that i find it disgraceful that a rescue with about 80 dogs on it organises one charity night in god knows how many years and there is all this furore about it when K9 and Live Arico are having two or three a week yet you say nothing, or is that ok as they haven't penetrated your little bubble that is Los Gigantes?
Recently the Rescue has been having lots of problems with people throwing poison over the fence and has lost a number of dogs to this, this has been investigated by the Guardia Civil, (you know who i mean, the serious police in green, the ones not to be messed with)
Phil had to prove to them that he was legal and endure an inspection in order for the case to go to court, it is in court in the coming weeks in Santa Cruz, so i am sure that if he can prove to the Guardia he is legal then you lot are small fry in the scheme of things.
If this doesn't convince you so far then any of you are free to PM me and make a time and a place to meet and i will gladly take you to the rescue, show you round, introduce you to Phil, let you meet the 80 dogs and see how he lives in order to do what he does for them, the guy lives in a cabin made from pallets and so does Leigh and i tell you something it will shame you it really will.
I will post the required details on here in the next few days and i really must stop writing now as i am biting my tongue and getting to the stage where i will start to write what i really think about this thread and what i hope is the minority of the community Los Gigantes!  :-X



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Talking Moon

I am the mother of Dolphin babe...I came on here to see if there is anything libalous about my family, with the intent to sue.

I thank some of you for your unbias support for the abandon dogs.

 ::)The rest of the posts don't deserve a reply. ::)

May we reap what we sew.

Love and light

Trisha

doreen

What an extraordinary thread! As someone who gave 50 euros to dolphinbabe for her fundraising night, are you telling me I shouldn?t have handed over the money because I live in Adeje ?

So you would prefer I do not do business with anyone based over in Los Gigantes in future, or support any of your local charities?

amunette

Excellent post Andy :) Though a complete disgrace you had to come and post it due to the nasty minds of some people.  >:(

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Thank you Andy for your excellent responce.

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That says it all Andy.

Wonder if it will bring a positive reponse from the moaning minnows.

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Wonder if it will bring a positive response from the moaning minnows.

Doubt it. Anyone who thinks along the lines of "outsiders", "own neck of the woods" and "poaching" when living as foreigners on a small island is beyond reasoning with.

dolphin babe

hiya people i dont get involed in stupid politics.i was the one that organised it and
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D all the dogs  now have full bellies for 2 weeks.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
i am glad i am still a teenager as i dont want to grow up as a small minded los gigantien ::) ::) ::) ::)
many thanks alex

orange

It is nonsense to suggest that a collection made with charitable purposes without charity registration is in some way tainted.

I can only talk from a UK prospective, it is not possible to register a Charity in the UK if you do have at least ?5000 in income per year to it.

A Charity can be registered or unregistered, but only based on this income level. Being registered gives no more credence to that charitable
purpose then non registration, except income level.

There have been many fake registered Charities (UK). Even run badly, the Salvation Army was an example of this. Taken internally for 4 Million Pounds.

There are also the hidden charities that give no impression that they are a charity. An example would be the General Medical Council.

Charity is big business in the UK and no doubt in other Counties. It may surprise some that Street Collections say for Guide Dogs for the Blind and the
RSPCA do not go further then administration expenses. This is the way of the business. Why some Charities established over 60 years have never
 been able to provide water taps for all? Pay ?70 at least to entrap one young gullible person by chugging.

So why try not knocking the big boys, the overpaid executives? Where posh offices, new cars and all the trimmings are provided from the monies
collected.

No doubt because Dingos Dogs is an easy target and is unlikely to threaten you with costly legal action.

june mcloud

I think that says it all. ???