Media Player Los Gigantes!

Author Topic: Carnival  (Read 10528 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

mdbkw

Carnival
« on: February 01, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • Hi all.  We are back for our yearly winter getaway on 10th Feb for a week and understand the Carnival will be on that week.  Does anyone have a programme of events yet/

    Thanks

    Martin/Karen

    Offline Dolly Diver

    • Sr. Member
    • *
    • Posts: 1422
    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #1 on: February 01, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • Still not available.  It will be posted on this boards as soon as.

    For a rough idea of dates and what is going on click this link to the "What's on locally" board

    www.losgigantes.com/board/index.php?topic=891.0


    Offline DaRKeTaMiN

    • regular contributor
    • *
    • Posts: 96
    • Age: 36
    • Location: Los Gigantes
    • I speak my mind. I never mind what I speak.
      • Tenerife Guide
    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #2 on: February 03, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • The programme of events of the los gigantes carnival will be available here on Monday the 4th of February 2008

    Offline linda

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 733
    • Location: Sydenham UK
    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #3 on: February 03, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • anyone any ideas about costumes for this one

    Falstaff

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #4 on: February 03, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • I have read somewhere that the theme is Andalucia  or more specifically its capital Seville.
    So, if you are going Wags  and you  are considering its historical beginnings, you won?t need a costume.

    http://www.andalucia.com/history/home.htm

    But why are there no details whatsoever on the Council?s website?

    http://www.steide.com/ayto/turismo/carnaval.html#CARNIVAKL

    When you consider the potential of the Carnival for the local tourist industry, isn?t it quite appalling that the Council has not yet published any promotional information. Has it never occurred to them that people might want to book holidays specifically for the Carnival?

    Offline Edward Bear

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 1008
    • Location: Santiago del Teide
    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #5 on: February 03, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • What council Falstaff ?

    Falstaff

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #6 on: February 03, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • I know they aren?t very good Edward  but why do they find it so difficult?

    Actually, I was thinking of booking a holiday to attend the Santa Cruz Carnival in 2025 (God willing). Now let me see, what date would that be then?

    http://www.puntoinfo.idecnet.com/index.php?sectionID=45&lang=2&s=6&ID=4276

    vladivar

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #7 on: February 04, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • For someone who claims to live in england you always seem to be moaning about counsils and othed local topics . WHAT have you ever done for this community.

    wayneinspain

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #8 on: February 04, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • Quite right Vladivar I couldn?t agree with you more, its about time outsiders stopped poking their noses into our affairs   
    « Last Edit: February 04, 2008 by wayneinspain »

    Falstaff

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #9 on: February 04, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • I do not live in England and when you say ?outsiders? I think you mean tourists. Tourist who may think about  visiting Los Gigantes for the Carnival  but cannot find the official programme of events or dates for the Carnival less than two weeks before it will allegedly happen because they have not been published by the Council.  This is poor by any standard and indefensible.  No wonder Los Gigantes has problems in attracting tourists with attitudes like this. The competition have published their Carnival dates and programmes well in advance and will no doubt benefit from this economically to the detriment of the resorts of  Santiago del Teide.

    What have I done for your community? I visit regularly and spend money, generating income for ingrates like you.

    wayneinspain

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #10 on: February 04, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • Everyone who attends the carnival knows full well that it starts  the week  after ash Wednesday or don?t you have calendar?s in Brittan anymore ? 

    vladivar

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #11 on: February 04, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • Falstaf lives here and the only money he spends in los gigantes is at the sport centre he dosnt even go to the carnival

    Offline linda

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 733
    • Location: Sydenham UK
    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #12 on: February 04, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • peole like to know the events and you say the carnival dates are fixed one year they were moved to make way for the road race and quite a few people missed it!!

    Falstaff

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #13 on: February 04, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • Wayne and Vladivar, imagine for a moment that you are the director of tourism for Santiago del Teide.

    You draw up a list of things that you think will be appealing to tourist to attract them to holiday in your area. You then brainstorm to come up with ideas about how to get this information across to market the area to potential tourists and tour operators. You know that many if not most tourist book holidays many months in advance as do tour operators.

    So, against  ?Carnival? which must be high on your list of attractions, you write as your strategy for marketing it to tourists and tour operators  ? ?do not  announce dates and the programme of events until 10 days before the Carnival is due to take place.? 

    If you think this makes any business sense, then I?m sorry but there is no point in me  commenting any further.

    Offline amibovvered

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 628
    • Age: 2012
    • Location: living in Tenerife
    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #14 on: February 04, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • Well said Falsataff, the nupties on the council are only matched by some others who post on this forum.

    Also, apart from his initial blaze of publicity, what has our English speaking representative done to improve the tourist situation in the LG/Santiago area?

    wags

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #15 on: February 04, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • Unfortunately Falstaff I am unable to attend the carnival infect I never have. In reply to your first post I am off to the isles of scilly to pick up some of the cargo that was lost over board from that ship      ;D

    vladivar

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #16 on: February 04, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • The dates for the carnival were anounced more than six months ago mr falstaf & ialwayseemtobebovered and as for the programe you dont need it until a few days before it starts to get times for parades ect get a life instead of moaning all the time .

    Offline Mr Max

    • Old Hand
    • ***
    • Posts: 234
    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #17 on: February 04, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • I disagree entirely.  The dates may be fixed in time from year to year (mostly), but when more and more businesses are going out of business in the area, the very least you expect your local authority to be doing for you is supporting you in whatever way they can, even if they too have no money.

    The least they could do would be to release details of the Carnival programme - even if the first release is subject to confirmation nearer the time, it would be better than nothing, which is where we are now.

    It's a very sad state of affairs - and before you ask - i live here and pay my taxes!

    Offline DaRKeTaMiN

    • regular contributor
    • *
    • Posts: 96
    • Age: 36
    • Location: Los Gigantes
    • I speak my mind. I never mind what I speak.
      • Tenerife Guide
    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #18 on: February 04, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • Finaly we have the programme of the los gigantes carnival Many thanks to the IMPRENTA SANTIAGO 922 86 70 97

    Thursday, 14th February

    Plaza Bouganvilla of Los Gigantes at 21.30h: SHOW OF CHOICE (ELECTION) OF THE ADULT AND INFANTILE QUEEN
    •Big opening with allegory of Seville.
    •Star act from Genaro Arteaga and his ballet
    •Ballet Aromas of Andalusia.
    •Comparsa Los Rumberos (1st Price for Presentation,
    2nd for Interpretation)
    •Murga Los Triqui-Traques (1st Price for Interpretation)
    •Comparsa Los Cariocas (1st Price for Interpretation,
    1st Price Accesit Presentation)
    •Onelia Hernández
    •Coronation
    Presented by : Tina León, Steve Gerald and Marcelo Kauffman.

    Friday, 15th of February
    Starting at 23.00h
    •Dance with Andalusia taste with the fabulous orchestra
    Turbo-Pachanga

    Saturday, 16th February
    At 10.30h : Mini Cross
    •Bouncing castles
    •Monitors with different activities
    FESTIVAL FOR CHILDREN
    From 17.00h onwards. The following acts:
    •Los Peques de Los Gigantes
    •Dance group of Los Gigantes
    •Dance group Sole
    •Dance group Aranzazus
    •Tobby Show.
    •Murga Los Rebeldes (1st Price of Presentation and
    2nd Price for Interpretation)
    •Big Magician David Borrás.
    Presented by : Tina León and The Dog Pelanas.
    At 23.00h Big masked ball with the famous orchestras Arguayo Band and Turbo Pachanga. With prices for individuals, pairs and groups.
    *The carnival committee 2008 offers all carnival people a transport service free of charge, which is as follows: Departure from Arguayo at 22.00 h and at 00.00 h midnight, driving to  Las Manchas, el Valle, el Molledo, Tamaimo, Playa de la Arena, Puerto Santiago and arrival in Los Gigantes. Return at 04.00 h and at 06.00 h in the morning the same route the other way round.

    Sunday, 17th February
    Big Carnival Procession at 17.00h. Departing from the round a bout of the Fisher woman down to the Plaza Bouganvilla with the participation of :
    Band of trumpets, drums and bagpipes from San Antonio
    •Comparsa Los Cariocas
    •Comparsa Los Tabajaras
    •Comparsa Los Rumberos
    •Comparsa Los Valleiros
    •Comparsa Santiago del Teide.
    •Murga adults Los Zetas Zetas
    •Group Chaxiraxi
    •Group Teiderife
    •Characters for children and floats with the adult Queen
    and children Queen and Ladies of honour
    After finishing the procession big dance on the square  with the orchestra Samady Band until the body resists.

    Monday, 18th February
    Funeral of the Sardine at 21.00 h. Departing from the entrance of Los Gigantes the funeral procession accompanied by the sad widows doing the usual round.
    After the good-bye, big artificial fire works of the brothers Tosté of Los Realejos.
    Following in the Plaza Bouganvilla sardines will be offered and the big ball of the widows starts with the fabulous orchestra Arguayo Band. Election of the new committee of Carnival 2009.
    *SERVICE OF TAXIS DURING THE WHOLE CARNIVAL 24 HOURS OF THE DAY 922 86 16 27

    Many thanks to the IMPRENTA SANTIAGO 922 86 70 97 for providing us with the programme of the los gigantes carnival.
    « Last Edit: February 04, 2008 by DaRKeTaMiN »

    ghod

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #19 on: February 04, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • you sound like a sad sad max

    Offline Mr Max

    • Old Hand
    • ***
    • Posts: 234
    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #20 on: February 05, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • Not at all.  I live here, and chose to do so.  What is sad is to see a once thriving and heaving place struggling to survive.  We all know that the holiday preferences of tourists have changed over the years and that there are now a stack of destinations which on paper at least look more attractive from their costs, activities and so on, but we were ALL tourists once, and you do have to ask yourself whether you would chose to live here today if you had just discovered the place.

    With the exception of the supermarkets, almost every business has a for sale/rent sign in its window, the once thriving restaurants and bars are almost empty with no atmosphere - eating alone is not much fun!

    We have so much going for us here, starting with the weather, quality of life and so on, but what is sad is to see our local council failing to promote these assets to the world at large.  We know how the carnival dates are calculated but to suggest the rest of the world does is frankly, a ridiculous assumption.  In defence of the council, it missed out entirely on the recent round of government hand-outs for the promotion of tourism and it has no money, but it must have a computer and email facility and could have been pushing events like the carnival not only locally, but where possible to the big wide world outside upon whom ALL of us depend.

    Sad at the present state of affairs yes, generally sad? - nah - how could I be - I have sun, sea, and a reasonable life thanks!!


    Falstaff

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #21 on: February 05, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • I wonder what would be the cost for the lowest paid clerk on the Council doing a Google search  for ?Tenerife Carnival? or ?Los Gigantes? and emailing a skeletal copy of the Los Gigantes Carnival  Programme with dates to all the web sites  listed on the first few pages, plus tour operators in the UK, Spain, Germany etc and airlines flying to TFS.  Would the economic benefit be greater than this insignificant cost?

    http://flights.jet2.com/tenerife/tenerife-events.htm

    It?s too late now of course but what about sending it now for next year?s Carnival.

    And if the Council gives me the information, I?ll do it for them.

    Offline Edward Bear

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 1008
    • Location: Santiago del Teide
    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #22 on: February 05, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • Wow Falstaff, thats an offer they can't refuse. On second thoughts though they probably will.

    borris

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #23 on: February 05, 2008 »
  • Publish
  •  ???Well you all seem to think that our beloved council are to blame, which shows how little you really know, I didn?t have to dig too deep to find the root of the problem. The truth is, that whilst the dates are set by the council and publicised in advanced, the actual organisation is down to the Carnival Committee who this year in particular, do not seem to have got there act together too well, (if you listen to a number of the Canarians who really do know!). The council are obliged to help the committee with any number of things, such as closing of roads, policing, music licences and a multitude of other things, but they are not responsible for the organisation or program of the carnival. There seems to have been some criticism of the spelling in the translation of the program. Translation is tricky at the best of time so rather than knock it for what was wrong it might have been better to think fantastic the program is up.

    There are many private individuals, and businesses working to help promote this area vis ? vis, (yes it is the correct spelling, Wags) this web site, to name but one. Whilst no one in there right mind would say this council is perfect, it is not always to blame for everything that is wrong. We now (the English ex-pat community) have a voice on the council in the form of Steve McKenna (who is not paid) and before you think, or reply what use is one voice. I believe one enthusiastic well motivated and I know committed individual working for the good of this area, has already begun to move mountains.
    We live in one of the best places in the world. We have superb weather, a year round climate, relatively low crime rates, a huge variety of entertainment from Baz Knight to It?s Immaterial, and a fantastic variety of food to suit all tastes. We currently seem to be fixated of what is wrong 10% not the 90% that is right!, (I know Dolly I?m on a rant and probably should have started a new string). The future is fantastic with individuals such as Steve and others who are truly bilingual and bicultural it can only get better.
    For all the moaners out there, as the Australians would say ?S** off home you whinging poms? 
    Sorry DD it just make me so mad.
     ;)
    « Last Edit: February 05, 2008 by Dolly Diver »

    Offline janey

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 865
    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #24 on: February 05, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • i agree borris, and i take great offence to mr max's posting (2 or 3 up), i find puerto santiago the busiest it has ever been, and unfortunatly it seems los gigantes is the village suffering, maybe the council should spend more money there!  i mean, whats all this with plya san juan and alcala - neither are tourist destinations, neither have the potential of los gigs....,  why didnt los gigantes get some sort of grant?  or have i missed something ......

    Offline Mr Max

    • Old Hand
    • ***
    • Posts: 234
    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #25 on: February 05, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • It is correct that it is the organising Committee directly responsible for putting the programme together and helping to make the Carnival happen, but is it not one of their responsibilities to promote it and the area in general to the world outside. It is here that they are not doing very well, as can be seen when the tourist industry here is compared to other areas of the island.

    I for one have not pointed the finger at Steve, or any other individual, rather the machine as a whole, which seems to have a number of important shortcomings, but it will always be the case that one single voice like his will often go unheard - happens everywhere.

    Whilst at it, where exactly is the critisism of the translation?  

    The future is getting visitors back here, simple as that - otherwise you'll not have many places to visit with Dorris.

    And Janey, disagree all you like, but you've just answered the points yourself.  Yes Puerto Santiago and Playa Arena are busier than Los Gigantes - thats the whole point of the groans that the Los Gigantes carnival has suffered through lack of publicity.  Alcala is about to be a MASSIVE tourist destination when the hotel opens in a few months time, and, in case you have forgotten it is in a different Municipality which has had support for tourism from Government.

    Falstaff

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #26 on: February 05, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • We all understand that the Carnival is organised by a group of volunteers and they are a credit to their community for organising such a complex event. But Mr Max is absolutely right about the role which the Council should be playing. It has a  responsibility to promote its tourist industry within a fiercely competitive international tourist market and it is failing badly. And it does not promote the Los Gigantes Carnival.

    People say that the Council fixes the dates of the Carnival and publishes them. But where?  I am regular visitor to its Spanish only website and I have never seen this information displayed.  Other Councils have multilingual websites with up to date information, videos of their attractions with downloadable tourist guides. The Santiago del Teide website is just so poor.  Just take a look for yourself. Try to navigate your way around.  Here is the Carnival page.

    http://www.steide.com/ayto/turismo/carnaval.html

    And now compare it with the competition. Go to

    http://www.puertodelacruz.es/puerto/front_end/videos.php 

    Click on ?Celebrations?

    There is no contest.  I rest my case.

    Borris, you have inadvertently revealed your true identity. You sound like the famous Captain Edward John Smith. You?ve locked yourself in your cabin for a carefree  voyage having left instructions not to be disturbed by whingers as your ship sails off into an turbulent  storm. 
    « Last Edit: February 05, 2008 by Falstaff »

    tanemera

    Re: Carnival
    « Reply #27 on: February 05, 2008 »
  • Publish
  • you sound like a sad sad max

    Ghod, is "sad" he only adjective you possess?  You seem to use it an awful lot when responding to contributors' valid comments.  This time you have excelled youself with a double "sad"!