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Offline linda

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« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2008 »
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  • great answer there and true i made similar comments and pose was removed.Lg has lot of potential but get the market right  :)

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  • i still think, that other people who bumble around mainland spain looking for the ideal destination for their hols, need to look no further than los gigantes.   we are class and it can't be denied.

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    Re: bring back the tourists?
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  • A very well composed post amibovvered

    Thank You

    I can see what you think of the british working class people

    No comment but it is the people who DON'T work who give me most problem.
    No wonder L.G. is going down hill fast

    It's being going downhill for a great many years - try going from Colonial Park to the Harbour ;) ;)
    « Last Edit: August 07, 2008 by amibovvered »

    wags

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  • The tuck tut?s will solve that problem

    amunette

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    mr max and amunette!  what planet are you from?  flight seat prices......? you are travelling at least 4 hours on a plane from london.... you can get cheaper flights to alternative destinations but only 2 hours flight..... you tell me which costs the most in fuel if you can possibly work it out!  if you book early for tenerife you will get good prices, leave it until last minute and of course its much dearer!  it is half way to the caribbean.

    accomodation.  i think ?350 per week is excellent for a family of 4 (on average) to stay in a decent apartment.  remember the credit  crunch is all over the world not just uk.  everybody's mortgage rate etc has gone up. or, should the apartment owners be subsidising your holidays alongside paying extra for their mortgages too?  have you had a look at the average price in mallorca self catering for a week in a dated 2 bedroomed apartment - ?750 per week.

    i suggest the pair of you, think about it and if you dont like it, book a hol in bulgaria. there are some smashing bargains to be had over there.......
     


    Janey.  Majorca for example is a 2hr 15 min journey, Tenerife these days under 4 hrs most times. Lets be generous and say 4 hrs. 3x the price for 1 and 3/4 hourish more flying time is not acceptable, and as its only this year such a huge gap has arisen in prices flying time cannot be blamed, in my opinion.

    We are a family of 2 adults, 1 baby, so it IS expensive for us, especially as we are on a tight budget. For many the early buying option is not available, we have to save.

    As for your Bulgaria suggestion, if my other half's Canarian family, plus my parents and family, all based in Santiago Del Teide, move to Bulgaria from Tenerife, then maybe I'll consider it. 

    amunette

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    « Reply #35 on: August 07, 2008 »
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  • Maybe bar owners  need to get rid of the "British bar" mentality and concentrate on being just a damn good bar regardless.
    People's tastes have changed - when I go out I want a decent glass of wine, a decent glass of beer or a good measure of spirit and mixer, evn a good cup of coffee and a brandy, in nice pleasant surroundings. Sometimes I dont feel like alcohol so where are the choices of non alcoholic cocktails, served with a flourish in a nice glass at a reasonable price? Only choice I am offered is a soft drink, usually in a can, or a coffee if I'm lucky - big deal.
    I want to sit at a nice table without a rickety leg, I want a table that has been cleared away and wiped clean, with a clean empty ashtray. I dont want to sit and look at the remains left behind by someone elses kids, crisp packets, empty drink cans etc. I want to be served by someone who smiles and doesnt carry on a conversation with their mate propping the bar up. Its not rocket science yet so many cant even get the basics right. Sorry but bar owners have to move with the times also. The days of the British bar, with English this, that and the other are all but over. I never understood the mentality of spending my hard earned cash on a holiday, to then only want english food, in an english bar and watch english tv programmes - what the hell is that all about - save your money, stay at home and buy a paddling pool to put in front of your tv....

    Totally agree.

    Personally, after years of the Brits thinking this island is their's, I'm glad to see there's a big push in marketing the island to a classier market of people, that will enjoy the island for it's true merits and NOT because they can get a pint of lager for a euro and full english breakfast for 3.50 - if that's what people want I can receommend a great place - it's called BLACKPOOL!!!

    Disagree,  the "Blackpool" tourist spend money like anyone else, they just need re-educating as to what is a good time. Classier does not equal more money spent locally

    For months now we keep reading on here or in the local "freebies" how everybody is suffering as tourism is so down, yet official figures constantly claim otherwise - then the real cynics claim those figures are fixed... as if the Tenerife tourist board has some sort of vendetta against them.

    We've been out today in the El Duque/Fanabe area and everwhere was rammed solid, again. The tourist has changed, they've become much classier and want something a bit more special on their valuable 2 week holiday. Another thing I noticed was the dirth of people wearing the ubiquitous "all inclusive" bangles.  In spite of bar and restaurant owners claiming "these people never leave their  hotel", that certainly wasn't true where I was.

    My dad delivers to bars in the South and LG and has done for many, many years. He is adamant there are far less people about than is normal for this time of year. I trust him more than I do offical figures!!

    Sadly Los G has also become somewhat of a victim of it's own success, some of those who either live here (pemanently or as "swallows") or who have been holidaying here since the eighties or early nineties  tend to treat it as their own village and frown upon the tourists.  From my experience they add little to the village as s whole but remember, these people (and I) will not be around for ever and we need to replace them with new "younger at heart" property owners and visitors.  If these new people are up market with money to spend, so much the better.

    Yes, totally agree, LG is very very clique.

    Sadly the local council are a waste of space and in these tight economic times other private money will be difficult to find so we cannot look for a massive improvement in the short to medium time.  However, Los G will remain a unique location with or without a sandy beach.

    Compared to British councils I think they do a good job. But I am speaking from a Canarian perspective, not a British.

    orange

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  • Quote: 'Compared to British councils I think they do a good job. But I am speaking from a Canarian perspective, not a British.'

    Even from a British perspective they do a good job - most Councils I know in the UK do a poorer job!






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    Re: bring back the tourists?
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  • Quote: 'Compared to British councils I think they do a good job. But I am speaking from a Canarian perspective, not a British.'

    Even from a British perspective they do a good job - most Councils I know in the UK do a poorer job!

    Forget the UK , we live here.

    Can you please tell what you think the council has done since the last elections to improve and promote the area for/to tourists.





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    Re: bring back the tourists?
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  • what i should love to know is......

    where is the input from the tourist board/tourism offices  for santiago del teide?

    do they exist and do they have a budget?  or, is the whole islands budget given to the blue eyed boys in adeje?

    amunette

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  • Amibovverd, what is there to promote? There is no accomodation for tourists even if they wanted to come!! Also, the council have more to do than just promote tourism. They have locals(Canarian) who have needs too. At the moment unemployment is bad in Tenerife and unlike the UK, many benefits are payed by the local council. People apply to the town hall for money for rent and food, and dependant on available funds they get rent paid direct to landlord and a cheque for a local supermarket for food.

    As for improvements, I have not been since last November, so cannot comment on that. You may live there, but you seem to have little idea of the work the council do beyond tourism.

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  • what is there to promote? There is no accomodation for tourists even if they wanted to come!! Also, the council have more to do than just promote tourism. They have locals(Canarian) who have needs too. At the moment unemployment is bad in Tenerife and unlike the UK, many benefits are payed by the local council. As for improvements, I have not been since last November, so cannot comment on that. You may live there, but you seem to have little idea of the work the council do beyond tourism.

    of course there is accomodation for tourists, there are 2 new hotels opening in the vicinity, there are lots of villas and apartments advertised, if we had more tourists (my whole point from the word go), then the bars and restaurants would need more staff, cleaners etc would be needed,  it would provide more work.  more taxis, more of everything.  tourism is one of the most profitable trades in tenerife. that is why los gigs needs to attract more of them!  hence my first point!!!

    amunette

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  • Janey, the existing hotels are struggling!! But they are not located in LG, LG itself needs more accomodation, in the Village. The reason for no tourists runs far deeper than lack of promotion or white sand beach unfortunately. The village is dead because it has been molded into what the aging Brit population wanted it to be. They whined and whinged until everything was closed down by 12am, no nightclubs, nothing anymore. Even the arcade has gone. Left with overpriced bars and tired entertainment. What is there to promote?

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  • i agree with most of what you say, but, acommodation is not easy.

    puerto santiago has no shortage of accomodation, los gigs has very old antiquated accom which you wouldnt even leave a dog in some!!  why wasnt the diamond knocked down and rebuilt?  why dont the owners of poblado, knock it and redevelop it?

    let the people stay in santiago and las arenas, they will still wander over to los gigantes surely..... or at least they will bring money into the area one way or another.....  then there would be a knock on effect.

    maybe the tourist board should stop thompsons using the los gigantes hotel as an old peoples home, maybe they should insist it becomes a family hotel with children accepted and catered for.  maybe also, the tourist board should put an embargo on all inclusive hotels ie, tamaimo and barcelo because people do not leave the grounds. 

    in my eyes, the tourist board have forgotten los gigantes, puerto santiago, las arenas.

     

    freddy

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    « Reply #43 on: August 09, 2008 »
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  • Janey, i have come to the conclusion, you do not have a clue what a tourist board do nor what a local council  does.
    there is a great saying in manchester " your  talking through your arse"
    If  only ..........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    If only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Sometimes in life people talk about things they know nothing about :o :o
    and guess what Janey ::)

    magsnmike

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  • Bring  back the tourists!!!

    I hope that there are no potential newcomers reading all of this.

    You are scaring anybody off that might be thinking of spending their time in the LG area.


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    Re: bring back the tourists?
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  • i agree with most of what you say, but, acommodation is not easy.

    puerto santiago has no shortage of accomodation, los gigs has very old antiquated accom which you wouldnt even leave a dog in some!!  why wasnt the diamond knocked down and rebuilt?  why dont the owners of poblado, knock it and redevelop it?

    For exactly the same reason as the Royal Sun is rotting away.  To rebuild costs money, lots of money which has to be borrowed from banks.  You may have noticed that banks are not having a good time at the moment, a situation which has been developing for some years, and it will be some more before the problem goes away...

    You are right when you say acommodation on LG is a problem though, and that is why it is getting progressively quieter.  PS is busier, but not by much.

    Other posters have hit the nail on the head.  Those who have bought and live(d) in LG are those who are fully responsible for what it has developed into over the past 10 years.  It simply isn't a holiday resort any longer - it is a residential area at the end of the coast road with very few reasons for anyone other than those who live there to travel there.


    coldandtired

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  • Bring  back the tourists!!!

    I hope that there are no potential newcomers reading all of this.

    You are scaring anybody off that might be thinking of spending their time in the LG area.


    Very true! We used to own in Tamara and sold up a few years ago, we still visit every year though but the overall impression from comments here is that the village is dying. Every time we come back I look at what's for sale, and I check here on the website also, but then I think we were lucky to get out when we did. You should be telling us all the good things about the village, the good restaurants and friendly service that IS still here, not a constant list of moans.

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    Re: bring back the tourists?
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  • I have read this board with interest. We have been coming to LG at least twice a year since 1990.At first we stayed at the hotel and then started to self cater because of all the good restaurants , bars etc.We started in Tamara then went to the Royal Sun and when that went ....up we went to El Marques and Las Rosas. I love LG and would happily have moved here. Now I'm not so sure. Don't get me wrong LG is still LG, still feels like coming home when we drive in BUT there is something missing. I feel very safe wandering around on my own. The bars are reasonably friendly, restaurants are ok . A short crawl up the hill brings more local bars and restaurants. You can get everything you need for a brilliant holiday,yes, the local supermarket is very overpriced but up the hill are local shops which are reasonable. Car hire is there if you want it but there are cheaper deals available at the airport, that is not a dig but just a comment. I wonder whether LG needs to go a bit more upmarket to compete with Costa Adeje and La Caleta. For the same price you can get superior accomodation, it's just as friendly and the choice of bars and restaurants extensive.Also many places are much more accessable without having the drive .LG has the edge ,with the spectacular cliff and seaviews but it can't rely on its reputation anymore . It has to decide what it wants to be . A residential village or a brilliant holiday destination. It can't be both without give and take on both sides. Unfortunately I don't see much of that at present.

    amunette

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    I wonder whether LG needs to go a bit more upmarket to compete with Costa Adeje and La Caleta. For the same price you can get superior accomodation, it's just as friendly and the choice of bars and restaurants extensive

    What would be the point of trying to attract the same people as La Caleta etc, especially as the accomodation is a huge issue. Why not aim for a different market, middle range families. Re-vitalise by adding things to appeal to people under 65 again!!! It does not have to get tacky, just a decent play area, arcade for the teens, plus a good quality nightclub or 2. 

    abudabidozy

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  • There are some good points getting raised but why doesn't the Tourist Board listen to us or make a statement.
    Can anyone get them to do this.

    Another thing I see is that tennis seems to be a closed shop. Unless you know someone else on holiday at exactly the same time who likes tennis the chances of getting a game are zilch.
    Can the tennis club not make a notice board available for names to go down and open up the ever decreasing circle of tennis players.

    Can we get some contacts for golf on this web page so people can come and play with others from the same community.

    You could also have a grass bowls night/day for the same reasons.
    Cliques are not good in any society, lets open Los Gigantes up and bring back the tourists.

    Lets also upmarket the waiter's and waitresses and give them some sort of nice uniforms, this might make coming here just that bit special.

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  • There are some good points getting raised but why doesn't the Tourist Board listen to us or make a statement.
    Can anyone get them to do this.

    Another thing I see is that tennis seems to be a closed shop. Unless you know someone else on holiday at exactly the same time who likes tennis the chances of getting a game are zilch.
    Can the tennis club not make a notice board available for names to go down and open up the ever decreasing circle of tennis players.

    Can we get some contacts for golf on this web page so people can come and play with others from the same community.

    You could also have a grass bowls night/day for the same reasons.
    Cliques are not good in any society, lets open Los Gigantes up and bring back the tourists.

    Lets also upmarket the waiter's and waitresses and give them some sort of nice uniforms, this might make coming here just that bit special.

    It would appear that the local council is uninterested in tourists and therefore are neither willing nor able to put a good case forward to the Tenerife Tourist Board to help improve Los Ggantes.

    The tennis centre is not a closed shop but I forgive you for thinkig it is.  I remember being shunned when I came to live here many years ago but I was cheeky enough not to take no for an answer.  May I suggest you introduce yourself to the resident coach and the owner (tennant) of the centre and voice your concerns, I've sent you a private message with their names.

    There is a local Golf Society based in the Bamboo Bar, so suggest you call in there ato enquire, I don't play golf myself.

    See my long posting earlier on this thread for my comments about most of the bars/restaurants here. 
    thread.

    Having said all that Los Gigantes remains a unique location on Tenerife, many of the people living in the area came here for holidays first before deciding to move from rip off Britain permanently.

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    « Reply #51 on: August 10, 2008 »
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  • Tennis - Do contact Sally about the tennis I'm sure she will be only too happy to pass your name on to others who are looking for a game.

    Los Gigantes Golf Society have a news blog associated with this site, contact names are given.  See home page - Associations and clubs - Golf Society

    Direct link http://www.losgigantes.com/Golf.php
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    BL

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  • Sorry, but unless you are a resident/frequent visitor LG does appear really cliquey.... In fact some people appear rather rude especially in shops and restaurants. It makes the local people wary of visitors. This may well add to the problem. It can also make the visitors feel uncomfortable and if they are renting they don't choose to come back....

    orange

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  • British Working Class People?

    Just how many of these exist now including the jobs that match this description.

    Tourism is about attracting people with money and with money to spend.

    It is not all about numbers. But LG has developed a day tripper mentality
    and that like Blackpool must affect longer stays.









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  • I'm coming back to LG and Playa La Arena on Friday for two weeks so they're not all of the tourists are staying away.

    abudabidozy

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  • Ditch the plastic chairs and tables.

    Call it an offence, charge them, make them update them, name them and shame them.
    Who seriously wants to sit on these cheepo chairs anymore.
    When was the last time all the bars seriously invested in decent quality seating.

    In fact Olympic medals could be awarded for

    100m sprint away from the plastic chairs, Gold

    A marathon for the length of time these places have had the plastic, Silver

    Syncronised retention, because one retailer keeps the plastic everybody else does the same.  Bronze


    amunette

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    When was the last time all the bars seriously invested in decent quality seating.

    As they are struggling to even keep staff on at the moment, I should think money for investing in furniture is in short supply!! Personally, if the grubs good, prices reasonable, I'd sit on a beer crate stack with a cushion on top LOL

    t l c

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  • Yes agree about the plastic chairs - you can't charge top prices and then sit on crappy furniture. We have a lot of good eateries and I think the furniture is important, it can make a place look more inviting. If you have two places charging the same prices for same standard of food, would you pick dirty white plastic or the  one that had spent a little extra on better quality outdoor/indoor furniture.

    sossmalley

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  • We have been coming to LG fo 12 years now and bought a property in the area some 18 months ago.  We intend to retire to the resort in about 2/3years time.  We do not want LG to die, in fact we think that as long as the restaurants and nightlife keep going and keep the levels of service high, then LG should thrive.  The level of service and standard of cuisine that restaurants deliver is all too important, whether we are talking about lower class or upper class. I don't think the colour of the sand on the beach makes a big differecnce.  I personally, don't like sand and prefer my pool or that of the Oasis. More important is the standard of service and level of food quality our restaurants offer and the nightlife available in the resort.
    We need to make sure the harbour area is attractive from a restaurants/service level and  from a variety of shops.
    Keep LG alive and attractive particularly through this tricky economic climate, that is important.




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    tasha

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  • The Colour of the sand isnt an issue I dont think but the cash in the Bank.

    We have stayed at the Barcelo Santiago three times for Christmas and last Christmas day we sat here (Me and hubby)  it was cold,  grey skies,  damp,  dark at 3pm and both said Oh what you do to go to the sun for Christmas.

    Well Jan 2nd there I was in the Travel Agents.

    Price for the Barcelo half board ?1650 each and as we go AI it was ?14 each per day. No meals or drinks on flight ?12 to book sitting together 15kg luggage. We then looked at Dominican Republic because we went there last summer well  Hotel- Riu Mambo-Premium seats on flight (choice of seats meals drinks throughout the 9 hours flight 30kgs Luggage allowance)and Hotel in Gatwick and 15nights parking ?1350.  Is there any choice? Total for Tenerife ?1930 against ?1359 which would you pick. ?600+ difference.

    This ?600 has almost paid for half of the Tenerife holiday we have booked for next May in our beloved Barcel Santiago.
    Your comments please  :)