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Offline janey

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bring back the tourists?
« on: July 30, 2008 »
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  • so we are getting a new beach in los gigantes...... doesnt sound like it is going to be golden though,

    why dont the council/ tourist board etc put down golden sand, that would bring the tourist's back.....  look at abama at weekends - you cannot get a place on the beach so it is obviously a required amenity, and the black sand fans can use playa san juan as they requested.....

    bingo!

    everybody will be happy and content! ::)

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    Re: bring back the tourists?
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  • i like the black sand and its part of the character i doubt a colour change will get the tourists running.

    Falstaff

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  • Is it certain that the sand will end up on Los Gigantes beach?

    I read about a year ago that licences were being applied for to dredge sand for Tenerife beaches and one of the dredging sites was just off Los Gigantes. But the plan at that time was that the sand was destined for beaches in the North, not Los Gigantes beach.   

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  • i like the black sand and its part of the character i doubt a colour change will get the tourists running.

    i can guarantee the tourists would be running!!!...... into los gigantes to spend all their money in our restaurants and bars!  it would be a huge boost, i cannot believe you think otherwise.  have you ever been to abama beach? fantastic!  i'm afraid that talking of beaches ' once you've had black.....' doesnt apply here or there!! 8)

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  • Once you get a short way out to sea from the shores of our coastline the sand is much lighter.  I'm not saying it is golden but see for yourself.  This picture, showing an Angel shark in the sand, was taken at Octopus cove (echo bay as some of the tour boats call it) - near the fish farm - Los Gigantes.

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  • Once you get a short way out to sea from the shores of our coastline the sand is much lighter.  I'm not saying it is golden but see for yourself.  This picture, showing an Angel shark in the sand, was taken at Octopus cove (echo bay as some of the tour boats call it) - near the fish farm - Los Gigantes.

    wouldnt that be the light from a torch which makes the sand seem only slightly paler......  i'm talking the same colour as abama or adeje.... now i bet those 2 beaches wouldnt be as popular with black or slightly black sand...... ;)

    LaCochinillo

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    « Reply #6 on: August 01, 2008 »
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  • What LG needs isn't "golden sand", but maybe something like a European Blue flag award, you know, like the one that Playa La Arena has? But the beach isn't the issue, its every thing that surrounds it (run down harbour etc)

    If what you want is an imported golden sand beach, go to Las Americas or Las Terisitas in the North. Don't forget, you'd need something to stop the tide and storms from washing it out to sea. (and what would that do to the local sealife?)

    I prefer natural beaches to artificial ones, even if I have to do the LG two-step to get to the sea.

    Keep it natural, accept no articial substitutes!!

    LaCochinillo

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    Offline janey

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  • point taken    -     would a breakwater affect marine life?  would it stop fish coming into the beach area?  sorry if i sound ignorant but tides, sea etc are not my thing......

    i think the area would benefit tourist wise from golden sandy beach but i have total respect for the marine life out there! 8)

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  • Abama beach was described as fantastic earlier in this thread - can anyone please tell me how to get there? I presume it's near the big hotel so do you have to go through the hotel to reach it, and is it open to the public?

    Thanks.

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  • There is no such thing on Tenerife as a private beach - all beaches by law have to be open to the public.

    Abama is no exception - however, the courtesy bus service which used to take people from the car park to the beach no longer operates.  You have to park in the car park and walk, follow the road.  It's quite a hike, downhill going, but uphill coming back!

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  • abama beach is very nice though, but, i wouldnt go on saturday or sunday as it is packed!  everyone loves it....... even the hotel guests stay by the pools at weekends!  many of the locals come from playa san juan, which should have had a sandy beach...... but thats another story!!!  all that money spent on a lovely promenade frontage and then...... oh... black sand..... nice......not!


    it just goes to show that golden sandy beaches will always be sought after.  it really would be a big plus for tourists to come back to los gigs if we could have one.

    i was thinking about the breakwater..... looking at the 'plans' for the beach/harbour, there is a form of barrier 'planned' to be built anyway which is probably a form of a breakwater....  they build them along the coasts of mainland spain all the time.

    magsnmike

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  • Bring back the tourists...... 

    The colour of the sand is clutching at straws to win anyone over.  The black volcanic sand I have heard has healing qualities, not sure whether this is true!!!

    You need to promote what you have already.  Let people know about The Oasis. The public swimming pool. The lovely bars on the harbour front where you can leave your sunbed for an hour and have a pleasant lunch. The variety of accommodation available to suit all ages and budgets. Promote the restaurants and the variety that is available. The fantastic climate. The friendly Canarian welcome.

    Its all there already...........    Your tourist offices need to get working on it.



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  • Well said Taxonomic.

    "You are privileged to live here" was a comment made recently from a friends of mine.  She and her husband were winter swallows and they sold their apartment in Los Gigantes 4 years ago. They regret their decision and are looking to buy again.  "What you have here is so beautiful". They have recently been here to see what properties are available and are looking to retire here. 

    Every morning, while getting ready for work, I watch sky news, just to keep in touch with what is going on in the Uk, and it never fails to make me feel so good about living here and the black volcanic beaches are part of the character of Tenerife that keeps me here - and thousands of others.

    amunette

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    all that money spent on a lovely promenade frontage and then...... oh... black sand..... nice......not!

    I really do not understand why you are bothering with Tenerife as black sand is natural to the island and you have a huge issue with it. If you are so obsessed with white sand, go to the Bahamas!!! Why should millions be spent importing white sand when black is free?!!! I love black sand, it dusts off so much easier than the other stuff, and personally I think it looks great.

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  • a lot of recent posts on this board have been about lack of tourists in the area etc, i was just pointing out that maybe 1 golden sand beach would perhaps entice a few more tourists to the area. i personally am quite happy around the pool, i dont particually like the texture of the black sand especially at playa san juan where it feels like broken down bits of coal!  but, i am not arguing that we shouldnt respect the islands natural black sand, but, saying that we need  more tourists and a lot of tourists would perhaps visit here if we had just 1 golden sand beach!!!! >:(

    you say
    If you are so obsessed with white sand, go to the Bahamas!!! Why should millions be spent importing white sand when black is free?!!!

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  • Can you imagine the cost of importing golden sand to Los Gigantes beach????  Yes I agree it would look nice - however, the first winter storm would wash it all away.  If you have never seen a winter storm in Los Gigantes check out our vidoe page http://www.losgigantes.com/VideoPlayer/

    poolepirate

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    « Reply #17 on: August 03, 2008 »
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  • The village was heaving today. Loads of Spanish, great atmosphere, great weather.

    What is all the moaning about?

    abudabidozy

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    « Reply #18 on: August 04, 2008 »
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  • Bring back the tourists, we have to consider what tourists we cater for first of all and find out what they like.

    A nice park with beautiful flowers and plants, trees and palms would go down a treat, cafe bars could be situated within .We need an area that has a maximum gradient of 1.5 m and I am sure it would be a big attraction.

    I saw a fantastic water park in Ischia just off the coast of Naples. This was a park that had about 30 different types of dip, hot , cold pools. I do not think I have seen this repeated in any country and it would be a great attraction.

    Ditch the taxis and get little tuck tuks  like in the far east which are a different experience when travelling around our town.

    Let's have constructive criticism as to how we develop our unique village.

    It has a lot going for it. don't compete with the masses just have different ideas.

    Annie

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    « Reply #19 on: August 05, 2008 »
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  • The nearest thing to a park in Gigantes is the Oasis. It has everything. Grass -palm trees-good pools and sitting areas amazing views bowling greens plus a really nice restaurant. I do wonder if daily tourists ever find it as it is tucked away. Perhaps residents would prefer they didnt ;)
    Very different from the lido which really could benefit from a make over as to me it is just a mass of concrete.

    t l c

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  • tuk tuks in LG - I can just hear the tut tuts !! Oh and trying to get up that hill - phew

    northernboy

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  • Sorry to say, but at times i believe that the residents of L.G. do not want the tourist to come back.  :-\\

    Falstaff

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    « Reply #22 on: August 06, 2008 »
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  • I do not like black sand beaches. Call me racist if you must but when you look down at your feet and they are black you have a compelling need  to wash your feet because you feel dirty. It?s an irrational  psychological thing but  I think most people feel the same.

    All of my favourite beaches  in the Canary Islands are BIG with yellow sand and can  be walked  and walked  for hours. If Los Gigantes had a yellow sand beach it could never sell itself as a beach resort and compete with the best  beaches because it is so small.  But there is no doubt that some people would find Los Gigantes more appealing  if it had a yellow sand beach, however I very much doubt that their numbers could generate a sufficient financial return to warrant the considerable cost of a new yellow sand beach.

    Los Gigantes is essentially a  resort for very old  people like me who expect to expire any day now and who are attracted by the very competitive burial  and crematorium cost if you happen to die abroad on holiday. Almost a two for the price of one offer!

    So isn?t it about time that the Council played to its strengths and effectively marketed this unique selling point to tourists rather than pointlessly promoting yellow sand on an inherently inadequate beach.

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  • Los Gigantes is essentially a  resort for very old  people like me who expect to expire any day now and who are attracted by the very competitive burial  and crematorium cost if you happen to die abroad on holiday. Almost a two for the price of one offer!


    More to the point, LG is not really a resort any more, it is, as above, more of a waiting room!

    There is so little accomodation available in the village to rent, and what there is is way out of reach of normal holiday makers.  A quick Google this morning shows that finding a private apartment to rent is not easy, nor is it cheap.  You'd be lucky to find much for under ?350 per WEEK - add that to your flights, food, transport etc. - nasty!!

    amunette

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  • Totally agree Mr Max. I have been looking for a rental for end of August, but  average min of E270 a week before even stepping foot on a plane!! Add in the ridiculous airfares and its crazy prices. We've got flights out for ?135.00, 2 adults, 1 infant, but going back is looking way more expensive, cheapest being ?180 at the moment. When you compare to other destinations Tenerife is definately getting a raw deal with bargain flights this year >:(

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  •  >:( mr max and amunette!  what planet are you from?  flight seat prices......? you are travelling at least 4 hours on a plane from london.... you can get cheaper flights to alternative destinations but only 2 hours flight..... you tell me which costs the most in fuel if you can possibly work it out!  if you book early for tenerife you will get good prices, leave it until last minute and of course its much dearer!  it is half way to the caribbean.

    accomodation.  i think ?350 per week is excellent for a family of 4 (on average) to stay in a decent apartment.  remember the credit  crunch is all over the world not just uk.  everybody's mortgage rate etc has gone up. or, should the apartment owners be subsidising your holidays alongside paying extra for their mortgages too?  have you had a look at the average price in mallorca self catering for a week in a dated 2 bedroomed apartment - ?750 per week.

    i suggest the pair of you, think about it and if you dont like it, book a hol in bulgaria. there are some smashing bargains to be had over there.......

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  • Interesting!  Feedback from apartment rentals on losgigantes.com.  The expensive luxury apartments and villas are getting very good bookings, some of them back to back.  Apartments in the much cheeper bracket are hardly getting any enquiries.

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  • I am also convinced the flight prices this year are putting a lot of people off.  Frankly there's not a lot the airlines can do to change that, after all they can make (at least) 4 return trips from the UK to mainland Europe, whereas the sheer distance to/from the UK and Tenerife makes that impossible.

    There is insufficient hotel accomodation in the Los G/Santiago/Playa de la Arena area but there will be an extra 300 or so rooms when the new Costa Los Gigantes opens.  As for apartments, from what I know and see apartment rents are not too expensive.  Those who own them are not looking for them to be trashed by rowdy "singles" types and I would have thought that 350 quid a week for a family of 4 is not unreasonable.  Naturally the summer period is, and has been quieter than the winter period.  Flights in the summer "school holiday" period have always been at a premium.

    Maybe bar owners  need to get rid of the "British bar" mentality and concentrate on being just a damn good bar regardless.
    People's tastes have changed - when I go out I want a decent glass of wine, a decent glass of beer or a good measure of spirit and mixer, evn a good cup of coffee and a brandy, in nice pleasant surroundings. Sometimes I dont feel like alcohol so where are the choices of non alcoholic cocktails, served with a flourish in a nice glass at a reasonable price? Only choice I am offered is a soft drink, usually in a can, or a coffee if I'm lucky - big deal.
    I want to sit at a nice table without a rickety leg, I want a table that has been cleared away and wiped clean, with a clean empty ashtray. I dont want to sit and look at the remains left behind by someone elses kids, crisp packets, empty drink cans etc. I want to be served by someone who smiles and doesnt carry on a conversation with their mate propping the bar up. Its not rocket science yet so many cant even get the basics right. Sorry but bar owners have to move with the times also. The days of the British bar, with English this, that and the other are all but over. I never understood the mentality of spending my hard earned cash on a holiday, to then only want english food, in an english bar and watch english tv programmes - what the hell is that all about - save your money, stay at home and buy a paddling pool to put in front of your tv....

    Personally, after years of the Brits thinking this island is their's, I'm glad to see there's a big push in marketing the island to a classier market of people, that will enjoy the island for it's true merits and NOT because they can get a pint of lager for a euro and full english breakfast for 3.50 - if that's what people want I can receommend a great place - it's called BLACKPOOL!!!


    For months now we keep reading on here or in the local "freebies" how everybody is suffering as tourism is so down, yet official figures constantly claim otherwise - then the real cynics claim those figures are fixed... as if the Tenerife tourist board has some sort of vendetta against them.

    We've been out today in the El Duque/Fanabe area and everwhere was rammed solid, again. The tourist has changed, they've become much classier and want something a bit more special on their valuable 2 week holiday. Another thing I noticed was the dirth of people wearing the ubiquitous "all inclusive" bangles.  In spite of bar and restaurant owners claiming "these people never leave their  hotel", that certainly wasn't true where I was.

    Sadly Los G has also become somewhat of a victim of it's own success, some of those who either live here (pemanently or as "swallows") or who have been holidaying here since the eighties or early nineties  tend to treat it as their own village and frown upon the tourists.  From my experience they add little to the village as s whole but remember, these people (and I) will not be around for ever and we need to replace them with new "younger at heart" property owners and visitors.  If these new people are up market with money to spend, so much the better.

    Sadly the local council are a waste of space and in these tight economic times other private money will be difficult to find so we cannot look for a massive improvement in the short to medium time.  However, Los G will remain a unique location with or without a sandy beach.



    BL

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  • Hear hear! What an excellent posting.

    Yes flight prices are high at the moment but there are excellent deals for the Autumn.

    Reference apartments.....please make sure they have a tourist licence....that's for you're own health and safety. Apartments without a tourist licence do not have insurance and more importantly fire alarms/escapes etc. Not to mention no reception, no lifeguard on the pool, no assistance once you arrive. There are plenty of places with tourist licences please check before you book.

    northernboy

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  • A very well composed post amibovvered

    I can see what you think of the british working class people

    No wonder L.G. is going down hill fast