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Hibisco Lass

All too quiet ...
« on: July 31, 2007 »
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  • Just come back after 2 weeks in Los Gigantes (been going 19 years!) and am amazed at how quiet it is.  I have to say that it does appear that a lot of owners do not rent out (or let people use for free!) their apartments and this is quite literally killing the place. 
    Why not give the area a big injection of cash and let someone use your aparment for a couple of weeks if you are fortunate enough to own an apartment - its what Los Gigantes needs!

    quondam

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    « Reply #1 on: July 31, 2007 »
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  • Just come back after 2 weeks in Los Gigantes (been going 19 years!) and am amazed at how quiet it is.  I have to say that it does appear that a lot of owners do not rent out (or let people use for free!) their apartments and this is quite literally killing the place.  
    Why not give the area a big injection of cash and let someone use your aparment for a couple of weeks if you are fortunate enough to own an apartment - its what Los Gigantes needs!


    You cannot be serious ;D

    Offline MSSMILEYBBW

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    Re: All too quiet ...
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  • Let people use for free? Erm....okay.....(not)

    gooner74

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  • Maybe letting apartments free of charge is a bit drastic! but something definitely has to be done about where the good ship Los Gigantes is heading!

    Offline janey

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    Re: All too quiet ...
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  • the resort is very busy at the moment!

    gooner74

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  • I stand corrected Janey :) I'm coming out in a few weeks and I can't wait. I'd hate to see the place go down hill (no pun intended!)

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    Re: All too quiet ...
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  • the resort is very busy at the moment!

    Sorry?  So which Los Gigantes are you referring too, certainly not the one on Tenerife which is quieter than a sleeping mouse - All activity has shifted further down the cost to Playa Arena etc.  Drive through Los Gigs at 11pm and spot the person - at least there is some (but nowhere near enough) life elsewhere...

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  • well mr max,   in my eyes puerto santiago has a real buzz, lots of new places to go, and los gigantes now has a tough act to follow,  the church square in los gigs is still as established as ever.  the new 'harbour club' has given a new dimension to los gigs,   i think things are picking up...... and i think its great!! ;D

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    Re: All too quiet ...
    « Reply #8 on: August 01, 2007 »
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  • -Hibisco Lass- if you had an apartament in los gigantes would you let people use it for free?

    Falstaff

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  • Surely many people would treat their family and close friends in this way if their appartments are empty. I certainly would.

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  • well mr max,   in my eyes puerto santiago has a real buzz, lots of new places to go, and los gigantes now has a tough act to follow,  the church square in los gigs is still as established as ever.  the new 'harbour club' has given a new dimension to los gigs,   i think things are picking up...... and i think its great!! ;D

    Hiya

    You are confusing two very different areas - Yes PS and Playa Arena do have a buzz about them I agree (it is nowhere near as busy as it once was, but at least better).  Los Gigs itself is sadly another story - it's dead. 

    Many of the reasons discussed here in other threads are the problem - One large Hotel which is almost exclusively All Inclusive, lots of owned apartments many of which are not usually rented out and the closure of those apartments that used to bring a rolling supply of people.  The whole area in desperate need of a lick of paint, almost nothing open on the Harbour Front etc etc etc.

    Loads of apartments to buy - nothing to rent and next to no "grown-up" entertainment to encourage people even if there were. 

    I well remember 5 years ago not being able to even get up the steps to the Green Corner, let alone get a drink.  There were probably 15 staff running around madly - now - well, plenty of seats to chose from and a couple of staff at best.

    Los Gigs has been moving rapidly towards being a residential area - primarily the choice of those who have bought there over the years (and there is nothing wrong with that as such) but as a restaraunt owner wrote a few weeks ago in the Sun - a significant amount of work and effort is needed to even get those living there out of their apartments (when they are actually using them).  Get the prices right, get the paintbrush out and smell some coffee - then perhaps we will see the old girl rise again!

    RoyL

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    « Reply #11 on: August 01, 2007 »
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  • I am afraid it will take more than just a lick of paint. As I have said in a previous post, I advertised my 2 bed sleeps 6 place at Las Rosas for 'a3300 for the two weeks (way below what I paid for maintainence)- no takers. The people who did enquire came back and said flights were too expensive. I then offered it for free to works colleagues with the same result. The problem is that the first week falls just outside UK school "term time".  For the last couple of years parents are threatened with dire consequences for taking their kids out of school during term time. This means that all the tourists with kids have to fit their holidays in with school requirements. Of course, the airlines have latched on to this and hike their prices accordingly. Add to that the extra tax on flights and thats why LG is stuffed as far as UK tourism is concerned. Less tourists means fewer and fewer places catering for tourists. Less facilities means even less tourists...and so on. So I put the blame squarely on the shoulders of the UK government - not only are they screwing things up here in blighty they have also done for The Canaries.  >:(

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  • Roy - I've no doubt what you say about schools etc is true, but it's not just flight prices that are the problem - if you REALLY wanted to come here you can get BA flights for 'a369 out on 19th and 'a3103 back 10 days later - not the cheapest either I'm sure.

    Problem is, people are coming over but they are not coming to this end of the island - ESPECIALLY Los Gigs........

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    Re: All too quiet ...
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  • Mr Max quoted "Loads of apartments to buy - nothing to rent and next to no "grown-up" entertainment to encourage people even if there were".  
    Nothing to rent!!!  Click this link on losgigantes.com http://losgigantes.com/Apartments/index.php?action=searchresults

    No grown up entertainment!!!  Drove through Los Gigantes last night, noticed that both TJ's and Domingos (both entertainment bars) were full.
    « Last Edit: August 02, 2007 by DaRKeTaMiN »

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    Re: All too quiet ...
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  • just spent a long weekend out in lg and agree it is much quieter than ps or playa de la srena but it was fairly busy in town the harbour though was very quiet!Flight costs i believe are a problem a few years ago you could do long weekends for not a lot,i know its holiday time but evenso.What lg needs are some decent tapas bars went to the one in puertosantiago plaza was heaving and great atmosphere. :)

    Hibisco Lass

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  • In response to 'Darketakin' question - would I let people use my apartment for free if I had one?
    Well the answer is:  I do actually have an apartment.   I do rent it it but I also let family use it for free.  It is probably used about 60% of the year and my guests make a significant contribution to the bars and restaurants of Los Gigantes (and surrounding area).  My point is that Los Gigantes needs many more visitors be they people who own, people who rent, or people who are fortunate enough to get a freeby!

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  • Mr Max quoted "Loads of apartments to buy - nothing to rent and next to no "grown-up" entertainment to encourage people even if there were".  
    Nothing to rent!!!  Click this link on losgigantes.com http://losgigantes.com/Apartments/index.php?action=searchresults

    No grown up entertainment!!!  Drove through Los Gigantes last night, noticed that both TJ's and Domingos (both entertainment bars) were full.



    Dolly, with all due respect to you, you are slightly missing the point I made, and indeed the point that a lot of others have made here in recent times.

    Yes there are lots of private apartments to rent, and some are indeed taken up, BUT in order to do this requires people to make their own travel arrangements rather than come here through the more traditional Travel Company routes of old.

    A couple of months back you could have stayed in the Barcelo Varredero (sp) for a week self catering for about 'a375 per person INCLUDING flights!!!!.

    OK then was our quiet season, now is our peak season, but even with Roy's Fab 2 weeks for the price of one offer above, plus flights it simply isnt cheap to do it yourself to Los Gigs - there are now many other cheaper destinations - especially eastern Europe and (sadly) many of these are cleaner and more up to date and welcoming!

    If tourism is to return to Los Gigs it needs tour companys to bring guests to us at bargain prices so that they have plenty to spend whilst they are here.  Because Los Gigs has become more residential in recent years this won't happen and the only establishment the tour companys will ever keep full is the All Inclusive Hotel.

    I still stand by my comments about entertainment too - OK so TJ's etc were busy last night - but again, with all due respect, those tourists who are brave and bold enough to make the trip here over and above the dozens of cheaper options expect something more than a Karaoke or Sound-Alike Bar to keep them entertained.  

    Las Americas has grown up and moved with the times in terms of the entertainment on offer for visitors, as have the 4 and 5 stars in Fanabe - yes you will still find the Karaoke Bars if you want them, but at least there are also venues catering for the more discerning.





     

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    Of the 40 or so apartments on the link you attached, only about a third are actually in Los Gigantes - the majority are actually Puerto Santiago which, as has been noted by others, is much busier ...........


    Annie

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  • Yes I know that Los Gigantes  is much quieter than it used to be but is the hotel also suffering from lack of guests ?

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  • Tour operators and cheap guests can also mean peoplke who expect cheap beer and chips what it needs is to look for more discerning traveller with money to spend and try tapping into the spanish market!!

    el observador

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  • Spanish people !!! In Los Gigantes ???  Whatever next ?

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  • Tour operators and cheap guests can also mean peoplke who expect cheap beer and chips what it needs is to look for more discerning traveller with money to spend and try tapping into the spanish market!!

    Linda - the first part of what you say is, arguably, correct - tour operators would tend to bring in those who may well want cheap beer and chips.  The point is though that tour operators will never again be bringing in crowds of visitors because so much is privately owned and, absolutely what the area needs is the more discerning visitor.  BUT the point I was making is that there is precious little for the discerning visitor to do when they get here.

    Now in saying the above I am assuming the discerning visitor would be looking for an alternative to the more traditional (and frankly rather old-hat) Karaoke and Sound-Alike Bars - they look for quiet, quality restaurants, sophisticated music bars and so on.

    Trouble is that it won't be the Spanish
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    macks

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  • The bars are to expensive.  The entertainment has not changed for 10 years.  why arent people coming here? ask yourselfs?  stop being greedy and make Los Gigs a holiday place again.  As for apartments we have one and we are FULL for the winter because we care for the village and kept the prices low. In 25 years I have seen people getting greedier and the vilage loosing its identy.  So something is not right.

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  • i agree with you in the sense that the village has got overpriced nbut also to english if and when the royal sun reopens maybe more people will come!!

    gibbo

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    « Reply #24 on: August 14, 2007 »
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  • i pretty much agree with all of the above.  we bought our apt in PS about 4 years ago, we wanted to by in los gigs but it was too expensive.  Now i am glad that we bought in PS.  when we come over we never go into los gigs for a drink as it is too expensive.  the drinks are almost double what they are in say the plaza.  we also seem to have cheaper food up in the old part of PS, more traditional.  Los gigs in a lovely place to have a mooch around of an evening to see the cliffs etc but it is all too expensive to eat and drink.  if they lowered their prices they would get more people in, i;m sure.  i just think that too many people who own apts or permantly live in los gigs have done this, they moan about the tourists and the noise of the bars.  i have seen it on the page many a time, residents moaning about the music being load after 12pm.  if you come on holidy thats what you want.  The people of los gigs have go to make up their minds what they want.  you can have the best of both worlds, more people means money for los gigs but to get more people in you have to lower prices and give it that holiday atmosphere.

    poolepirate

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  • Good posting gibbo.
    It is good to see sensible comments on this Board.

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  • well said gibbo!

    macks

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  • Out in less than 10 days will report back. lol.  One thing for sure "the sun will be shinning" sorry dont wont to rub it in to those left in the UK. ...tee hee.  Hopefully I will see a change in entertainment, my kids  6 & 12 and been going since birth now all the songs at T J's and Domingos and join in.  OOps  let the cat out the bag.  (mine are the noisey ones.  Yes they are aloud Los Gigs and welcomed.)  Take after there mother.  see ya soon guys!!!!  Stand by.  lol   ;) : :o

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  • what needs o happen is sort out your market then target them lg is not las americas it can be a bit more pricey with good food and bars just not pricey for rubbish look at juan carlos  :)

    blue

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  • Hibisco Lass if it's family then obviously you would let it for free,but the flights are expensive so they go elsewhere,unless ofcourse your generosity extends to flights as well.You little over generous lovely person tthat you are.
    God bless you. :-*