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redflash2

3 kings night
« on: January 05, 2009 »
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  • I have lived here for nearly 30 years and the 3 kings have just passed my house and I can only sadly say that that it was the worst show ever!!!  There were no camels and the costumes looked amateur and there was really no parade with just a few disney characters and no proper playing band!  It was truly the worst I have ever seen in all these years and even last year they were waving and throwing sweets which is more than they did a half hour ago!  Is this another sign of the times here?  I hope that it looked good for the children in the square which after all is what it is all about but shame on you Los Gigantes!

    orange

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    « Reply #1 on: January 05, 2009 »
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  • Yes it was a disappointment. I had posted about the poor or at least quick firework display on New Year's Eve.

    This was on par with that.

    The place is on its uppers...


    redflash2

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    « Reply #2 on: January 05, 2009 »
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  • Yes I also read your post and agreed with it entirely! I just feel sorry for the poor kiddies sat in the square in cold and late conditions tonight waiting for this which is the night of their life!!!  It is too late for them at nearly 11 at night when they have waited in such anticipation!  I think it is all nearly over now as there is some music going on.  I agree with you that what is happening here and it is a sign of the times regrettably and are we about to go back some twenty or more years to how it used to be here - a smalll little village!  Who pays for this anyway?  Perhaps Stevie could give us an answer?  Perhaps instead of the  Christmas Pots of Trees about the place more could have been spent on tonight and the fireworks on New Years Even which I agree were pretty pathetic!

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    Re: 3 kings night
    « Reply #3 on: January 05, 2009 »
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  • I think the carnival may be going the same way   :(
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    orange

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    « Reply #4 on: January 05, 2009 »
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  • Judge John Deed who is a member on the Forum sent me this private message after my last posting.

    You are an absolute ARSE and need a SLAP in the face. Why on earth would you try and put people OFF coming to this area. In the current climate the area needs everyone and anyone, spending their money in businesses and restaurants. I can only assume you are not a business owner. Things are only going to get worse this year and STUPID bloody quotes like the previous one you made are uncalled for. Use your brain next time before leaving a posting. I have sent this on a private message, but if you put anything stupid like this on again I will crucify you with an open posting which I guarantee will make you look so small, you?ll want to hide within your skin !

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    Re: 3 kings night
    « Reply #5 on: January 05, 2009 »
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  • Mrs mills must of stood him up tonight
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    BL

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    « Reply #6 on: January 05, 2009 »
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  • I went down to the square with friends. I have built this event up for the last couple of years and their daughter was really excited.
    What a disappointment.
    Horses not camels.
    No build up with a band/presenters (both Spanish and English).
    There wasn't the same atmosphere as previous years at all.

    amunette

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    « Reply #7 on: January 07, 2009 »
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  • GAH!!!! Camels shmamels. It is all a load of lies anyway!! Even is you believe in the bible, it does not say "3 kings" it mentions a group of magi. 3 prezzies, yes, but amount of people, no. Also, based on scripture, they turned up when Jesus was about 2 yrs old.

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    Re: 3 kings night
    « Reply #8 on: January 07, 2009 »
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  • You be telling us next there?s no father Christmas  ::) :o
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    Chrissi

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    « Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009 »
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  • I have to agree with Redflash, this year was very disappointing. I spend a lot of time telling visitors and family and friends about the wonderful processions here and especially Kings, which is so important to the children. A sign maybe of the times, but as has been suggested more money should be used on these occasions which would attract more visitors, which we really need. If people are impressed and really enjoy, they will return as they do each year for the Carnival, I do hope that the Carnival will be as good as always and wont let us down this year. In the Square last year when Power FM put on such a fabulous show I heard several tourists say what a fabulous night they had had and would definately be coming back. These events in my view are so important to the prosperity of our little corner of Tenerife.

    amunette

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    « Reply #10 on: January 08, 2009 »
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  • Oh for goodness sake. It is a Canarian/Spanish thing not bl**dy British, and if they want to use horses, fine >:( Once again we have the ex-pats trying to dictate a festival which had nothing to do with UK culture!!

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    Re: 3 kings night
    « Reply #11 on: January 08, 2009 »
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  • Oh for goodness sake. It is a Canarian/Spanish thing not bl**dy British, and if they want to use horses, fine >:( Once again we have the ex-pats trying to dictate a festival which had nothing to do with UK culture!!

    And yet again you have failed to grasp the point.

    Of course it's a Canarian custom, actually, more to the point it is a Catholic custom.  However, if you read above more carefully you will see that the point being made is that this year's Kings parade was not a patch on previous years.  It wasn't just that they used horses instead of camels as previously, but the procession was also led by the mad speaker-van driver rather than a band as before.

    The problem is this.  There is no longer any money to do these events like they used to.  Horses are cheaper than camels (by about 300 euros per animal), and presumably mr speaker-van is cheaper than a band.

    The shame is that, these local parades and customs are exactly what bring people back to the area year after year.  When cost cutting on events like this happens it can ruin previous visitors impression of the area and the activities that take place and, eventually, as has already happened, visitor numbers drop, drop again, and then dry up.

    The local council should be looking at ways of encouraging visitors, even in tough times, perhaps even more so, and possibly at the expense of other things, if only to keep the visitors coming with their money.  Sadly however, since unemployment is rising fast, their funds are being directed elsewhere.  Some may argue this is a false economy - I would certainly be keen to see more investment in the promotion of the area and activities to visitors, but then I don't do the council's accounts!

    One thing I will say is that like Redflash, certain aspects of local life have taken a dire turn for the worse.  A couple of years back, any event which was seen as having any interest for visitors, such as the 3 Kings parade, the Discount Fairs on the PS Plaza, and other similar things were promoted in English, partly for the benefit of local residents BUT more importantly the tourist trade.  Don't get me wrong, promotion in English is not something that should be expected to happen, especially for the British (and other) population - after all this is Spain, but the point is that it is very cheap to do, highly cost effective and something that was always done.

    Such promotion used to be done by Councillor Steve who would co-present many of the events, or record announcements for Mr Speaker-Van.  Even Dolly told us in another post some months ago that she had been assured such promotion always happened.  Well, as is clear here, Mr Steve does seem to have disapeared from the face of the earth, and I would imagine a good number of people now wonder why they voted for him.

    As to the prospects for the LG Carnival and PS Fiesta I suggest not holding your breath for too long.  Already the PS Fiesta is down to half the length it used to be and the Santa Cruz Carnival has had its budget halved - fings aint wot the used to be, but some could try harder (or at all!)

    That's life I guess

    amunette

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    « Reply #12 on: January 08, 2009 »
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  • Actually it is the whiners on this thread who are not grasping the point.

    The "dole" system in Tenerife is not like here in the UK. The local Ayuntamientos help people out. So when it is money spent on hiring camels and bands versus money for food/rent for locals where do you think they should prioritise? Sorry for the tourists that they did not get the all singing and dancing version of "Reyes", but needs must and day to day living is more important at the moment.

    Some people have not got a clue how bad things are for the locals at the moment.

    I have been translating this thread for my other half(Canarian) and he is livid at how selfish some of the attitudes are. Horses have been used many times in LG, by the way, so not a huge issue.
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    orange

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    « Reply #13 on: January 09, 2009 »
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  • While trying to grasp the situation and not whining. Is this the official version that spending on tourism
    in the LG area has been cut to provide more monies for local social aid?

    At 3 Kings Night, local children were the predominant attendees. The original reason was nothing to
    do with tourism. But it has turned or been turned into a tourism event.

    As a result there is scope for them to express disappointment.

    amunette

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    « Reply #14 on: January 09, 2009 »
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  • Orange, no not the official version as I and my other half do not work for the ayuntamiento. You will have to wait for the elected Brit (Steve) to confirm why things were scaled down. But I can tell you now, the locals go to the ayuntamiento for aid, and there is only so much money to go around, so it does not take a genius to work out they are prioritising where necessary. As my partner said, their would be uproar if they had spent a fortune on camels etc, then turned people away as no money left.

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    Re: 3 kings night
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  • Ok, it?s time to sort this one out.  There are cut backs, as we all expected.  Camels were arranged, but due to the severe storm in the towns and villages above Tamaimo, plans went desperately wrong, and there was no way the organisers wanted to subject the camels to the ordeal of being loaded and unloaded in the stormy conditions. A last minute plan to save the evening in our area was to send horses instead which didn?t have to be transported so far.  I was not able to get to this event but I have been told by parents that the children had a lovely evening which is the whole point of the event.

    There are currently improvements going on in Los Gigantes and in Puerto Santiago in the Barcello Santiago area ? more info will be on our news soon, the budgets have been approved just take a look at the big sign at the end of Calle Las Palmeras.

    As for questions as to what the council are doing to attract more tourists here during the credit crunch, I can now tell you, because the contract has just been signed, that the Losgigantes.com team / Dragonfire TV have been commissioned by the Santiago del Teide Council to produce a tourist promotional DVD in English, Spanish, German and French as well as a 20 second ad for TV.  We are also involved in another project with the council which we can?t yet tell you about.
     
    I assure you that in our meetings with the Council they are very aware and concerned about the current situation and are doing as much as they can, given their limited budget, to improve the area, keep events like Carnival alive, attract more tourists and keep Santiago del Teide one of the loveliest corners of Tenerife.

    It must be remembered that the current situation in Tenerife was not caused by any Canarian council or the Tenerife government.  It is a matter of a worldwide crisis and the weakness of the pound.  Had the Uk come into the Euro when it had the chance our situation would most likely have been less precarious, but that?s a debate for another string.

    amunette

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    « Reply #16 on: January 10, 2009 »
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  • Thanks for the info Dolly :) I really hope it all works to help LG as it is a beautiful corner of Tenerife.

    orange

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    « Reply #17 on: January 10, 2009 »
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  • The history of the social welfare system in Spain is short and as a result differs from other core Members of the EEC.
    Not wanting to sound too dry, the European Union is building a social welfare system that will benefit Spain by
    rationalising points of payment and the payments themselves. I do not know what the timescale is.

    I would imagine like any Council, the budgets are set year on year for all expenditure. Otherwise tourists/residents
    would get upset if they thought they were taking food out of other people?s mouths, when most tourists/residents feel
    that they are doing the opposite.

    If we knew that the budget proportions were grossly unfair, that would be the time to get upset.
     
    It is a difficult matter, but the Tourism budget should not be made counterbalance of the Welfare budget, only against all of the budgets.
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    wags

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    « Reply #18 on: January 13, 2009 »
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  • ANY PHOTO;S TO LOOK DOLLY ?

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    « Reply #19 on: January 14, 2009 »
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  • I was unable to make it to theis event, but if anyone else has photos they can upload them to our photo gallery, or email them to me and I will upload them.

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    « Reply #20 on: January 18, 2009 »
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  • Dolly, any more news on the planned improvements for the area which you referred to previously?