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sebastian

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« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2007 »
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  • Falsey for once people agree but you as always have to be the rotten apple by saying "It would be a violation of their human rights" POPPYCOCK

    You are no doubt  " A DO-GOODER" Who sadly this time has the views of They need help. Sorry CHOP THEM OFF THEN OTHERS WOULD NOT FOLLOW THEIR LEAD

    NikkiGQ

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    « Reply #61 on: June 30, 2007 »
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  • Sebastian, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU ! chop them off, or do unto them as they have done to others,,, see how they like it !!! the sad thing is they may like it !
    So go back to the sentence ! CHOP THEM OFF !!!
    Ciao foR now.

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    Re: Missing 3 year old Madeleine McCann
    « Reply #62 on: July 01, 2007 »
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  • Hopefully without anasthetic!!!and they should have I am a paedophile tatooed across their cheeks.
    Just back from break in Portugal and Madelaines poster is everywhere you go. We saw for ourselves the hundreds of acres of dense shrubland and the taxi driver told us that there are areas where people don't go for weeks at a time so searching these areas is hopeless.
    Madelaine has now slipped from the news here and it seems as if the press have lost interest, we can only hope that behind the scenes and away from the glare of publicity, people are still working their socks off, if only so her parents can have some kind of closure.The not knowing coupled with the dark thoughts they must have from time to time must be a truly awful thing to bear.

    dorris

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    « Reply #63 on: July 01, 2007 »
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  • CHOP EM OFF, no anaesthetic. I'll volunteer to do the job.  They're Low Life.... can't say what I really want to say because Dolly Diver would moderate me!

    Leigh

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    « Reply #64 on: July 01, 2007 »
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  • The offenders would still be around though - a lethal injection to completely remove them from our planet.  What use are these monsters in our society anyway?  We the tax payers have to pay for their stay in prison etc;  get rid once and for all!! >:(
    « Last Edit: July 01, 2007 by Leigh »

    blue

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    « Reply #65 on: July 05, 2007 »
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  • But Seb, what you are advocating is outrageous and morally wrong. It would be a violation of their human rights.  I think the offenders should themselves volunteer for the treatment. Give them a choice, a proper life sentence or the chop and a lesser term in prison.
    I seriously hope YOU ARE TAKING THE I am stupid MATE!
    You're way of the mark on this one or you are completely nuts!

    Offline linda

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    « Reply #66 on: July 05, 2007 »
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  • have to say i agree the kids dont get a choice

    Falstaff

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    « Reply #67 on: July 05, 2007 »
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  • Fact. It would unquestionably be a violation of their legally enforceable human rights. It would be a serious  criminal offence and contrary to all western civilised standards of behaviour. I am not aware of the existence of any serious western political party which advocates involuntary castration. Are you?

    Sure, we would all like 5 minutes with them in a locked room with a hammer and a rusty knife  but it would be hypocritical of us to succumb to our own sadistic urges. We would be no better than they are.  And do you think that if an offender was surgically treated against his will, it would make him a good citizen when released? Or would it create an even worse monster who would seek his sadistic  revenge?

    And yes I was being sarcastic. People who violate the rights of children do not deserve to have their own rights protected,  but they should be protected nevertheless.

    ghod

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    « Reply #68 on: July 05, 2007 »
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  • An eye for an eye thats what i say,death very slow,inflicted by the parents.

    blue

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    « Reply #69 on: July 05, 2007 »
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  • Falsstaff you have surpassed my expectations.
    These people are animals & as so should be treated as one.
    Put them down.No choice of whether to be castrated or not.
    A dog bites a child & it gets put to sleep but our judicial system gives them a TV & a pool room.
    There's your Human Rights for you.
    I see Ian Huntley now has a boyfreind good on him eh.
    Sitting down to watch the TV at night with the boyfreind as your soulmate & some Hagen Das! Lovely, just F'N lovely.
    On one hand you say what should be done to theses people then you go on about their rights!
    What one is right though?In your opinion?

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    Re: Missing 3 year old Madeleine McCann
    « Reply #70 on: July 05, 2007 »
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  • An eye for an eye thats what i say,death very slow,inflicted by the parents.

    i'm with you on this one, these weirdos deserve all they get and more.  i also hear that when they are inside they are the lowest of the low and other prisoners are not too kind, good!!!!  the wardens turn a blind eye.....

    big jo

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    « Reply #71 on: July 05, 2007 »
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  •  People who violate and murder children automatically forego their human rights when they committ their crimes.For example,the uncle who,recently received a life sentence with a recommendation that he serve 35 years for the rape and murder of his own 2 year old niece.If society does not start to deal with these 'people' seriously then what has the human race become when even the innocence of childhood is denied.I have a friend who took the man who molested his niece to woods and severely beat him and he served more time in prison than the molester!!!!!Justice,I don't think so!!!!! 

    Falstaff

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    « Reply #72 on: July 05, 2007 »
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  • Blue, if you say that  child abusers should receive a death sentence  for the abuse, then looking at the situation from the abusers position, he would have nothing to lose by murdering his victim because he would receive exactly the same sentence. And he would have something to gain from the murder, through the elimination of the main witness to the crime.  So what you are advocating  would effectively encourage abusers to murder innocent children.

    Leigh

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    « Reply #73 on: July 05, 2007 »
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  • So Falstaff - It's bizarre isn't it but putting these monsters behind bars for x amount of years doesn't work!  Get shut once and for all they are a drain on society and have lost their right (IMO) to any human rights. It's about time we stopped pussy footing around and dealt with this scum once and for all. They must be twisted in the first place to abuse/murder  innocent children.  Many, many abusers go on to abuse again and again. We should nip it or rather them in the bud before they are allowed to abuse again.

    tonycrewe

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    « Reply #74 on: July 06, 2007 »
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  • Sebastian 1 Falstaff 0

    Falstaff

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    « Reply #75 on: July 06, 2007 »
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  • What is important in the debate is what is in the best interest of the innocent victims of abuse. Proposing that the abuser is executed is not in the victimquote s interest if it increases the chances of the victim being murdered. Letquote s not put our own selfish desire for vengance above the interests of innocent children. If you want to engage in a sensible debate then challenge the logic of this unpalatable argument, if you can. 

    sebastian

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    « Reply #76 on: July 06, 2007 »
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  • Falsestuff be it any other story but i seem to remember even the bible says "AN EYE FOR AN EYE"

    Or does that effect its human rights????

    Falstaff

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    « Reply #77 on: July 06, 2007 »
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  • You haven't addressed the issue Seb. Introducing the death penalty for child abusers would  lead to significantly more children being murdered because the abusers  would have nothing to lose by killing their victims and a lot to gain by eliminating the main witness to a crime which would carry  the death penalty.

    If you look at the statistics, most child abuse takes place within families. It is common for abused children to feel a deep sense of guilt, believing that they are at fault. If you were to introduce the death penalty for child abuse, you would burden the innocent child for life with the guilt of contributing to the death of a father, brother, or other close family member. How sensible is that?

    What you advocate would significantly reduce the number of reported cases of child abuse. Families would no longer report it and would close ranks. You can almost hear the child abusers telling their innocent victims that if he or she were to speak out, the abuser would  be killed and it would  be child's fault.

    You quote ldblquote an eye for an eyedblquote . If you read the old testament, it  is the victim who should have the right to chose to take the eye and not a  bystander such as yourself. 

    sebastian

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    « Reply #78 on: July 06, 2007 »
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  • Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah.......................

    Falsestiff you are the only one ranting on and on like some demented old lesbian who burnt her bra in the sixties.
    Get a grip.....girl.

    big jo

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    « Reply #79 on: July 06, 2007 »
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  • I think that the constant threat of an abuser gaining early release from 'her majesty's hotels'is something far worse to live with than the execution of one,many of the victims are unfortunately way too young to decide if an eye for an eye is the right choice,the victims live with the mental and physical scarring day in day out,traumatized beyond comprehension,the abusers are mentally and physically stimulated by their memories!!!!!!!!!!   

    Leigh

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    « Reply #80 on: July 06, 2007 »
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  • I've had enough of this so called 'PC World ' if you do wrong to others you should suffer the consequences and as most people say at the moment - "End Of".

    Falstaff

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    « Reply #81 on: July 07, 2007 »
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  • Big Joe, anyone who is convicted of seriously abusing a child  should be locked up for a very, very,  long time and only released when it is absolutely safe to do so. Why on earth are we imprisoning non violent offenders, compulsive shoplifting housewives, petty criminals and tramps (and maybe people who smoke in public places) when we don't have enough room to lock up the serious child abusers for long enough?  Our nanny state has created so many petty offences that the criminal justice system cannot cope.
     
    Let's complain to the Minister of State for Justice, Mr David Hanson MP,  via  his email address-

    hansond@parliament.uk

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    Re: Missing 3 year old Madeleine McCann
    « Reply #82 on: July 07, 2007 »
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  • I MUST SAY THAT IF YOU ONLY FACE A UK PRISON SENTANCE THEN THE ABUSERS CAN SAY WHAT THE HELL I WILL BE FREE IN ACOUPLE OF YEARS IF IT WAS THE DEATH SENTANCE OR WORSE MANY MAY HAVE SECOND THOUGHTS

    Leigh

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    « Reply #83 on: July 07, 2007 »
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  • My sentiments exactly Linda.

    big jo

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    « Reply #84 on: July 07, 2007 »
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  • I do agree that a lot of prison space and tax payers money is wasted on petty offences and that the overcrowding in our prisons is a huge factor that influences the sentences dished out by our judges.However when it comes to murderers and sex offenders,including those that download disgusting child porn,life should mean life! At the moment all offenders know that whatever their sentence they will serve only a third,great deterrent!!!The justice system needs a complete overhaul and lot of the top judges need to retire and let new blood with balls and no senile dementia move in!!!!! 

    Leigh

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    « Reply #85 on: July 08, 2007 »
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  • I've said it before and I will say it again "The Law Is An Ass"!
    « Last Edit: July 09, 2007 by Leigh »

    Leigh

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    « Reply #86 on: August 22, 2007 »
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  • Sadly the trail seems to have gone cold.  Any news people?

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    Re: Missing 3 year old Madeleine McCann
    « Reply #87 on: August 22, 2007 »
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  • There are many good news sources about this case.  Sky News is of the better ones. Click this link for the latest update.
    http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1280821,00.html

    Madeleines parents give interview to Spanish newspaper - check out this link.
    http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_12106.shtml
    « Last Edit: August 22, 2007 by Dolly Diver »

    Leigh

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    « Reply #88 on: August 23, 2007 »
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  • Thanks for the link Dolly.

    Sadly I have just read about the 15 year old girl who had gone missing, thought to be abducted.  My thoughts and prayers are with her loved ones. :'(

    NikkiGQ

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    « Reply #89 on: August 26, 2007 »
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  • After the recent fires in Gran Canaria and Tenerife our thoughts have been with the people who have lost homes and properties. It was heart warming to read that so many people have been going around putting back up the posters for Madeleine McCann and Yeremi Vargas.

    Is there ever going to be an end to these sad situations ???

    Keep vigilant ! Keep praying ! Warn children to be aware where ever you are !!!

    Also, this may be a sore point, but I feel that some of the younger teenage girls dress very provocatively, :o the case of Fernanda found abused and murdered, its not an excuse for would be violations, but a bit of decorum in dress would not go amiss in some cases. Its a sad case of our society today.

     >:(