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Chrissi

Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
« on: August 10, 2009 »
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  • What a great night most of us had at Amazonia on Saturday night. This was to benefit little Lucy whose parents run Celebrations in San Juan that sell all sorts of party accesssories. Lucy is a special needs child and is in need of a special wheelchair. She is adorable. The wheelchair will cost lots of euros and the Lions are helping very much in this cause. Glen laid on this quiz night (very difficult questions my friend) Unfortunately, not like me I have to mention two negative points. The entertainers gave up their time for NO FEE to attend and perform for Lucy, one or two of the people in  attendance decided to try and talk over these entertainers, they had two alternatives, dont attend if the entertainment is not to your choice or second SHOW SOME RESPECT. I cannot believe how rude some people can be to others who are doing something out of the kindness of their hearts.The second negative point is that a so called gentleman decided to sneeze all round the bar and restaurant without a tissue or even a hand over the mouth which we all think he thought was funny. Sorry we didnt,  Just hope we all dont get swine flue. Sorry back to the positive. Glen and his helpers did a wonderful job and the food was superb as was the raffle, It must have taken hours of hard work to get so many sponsors and the prizes were brilliant. Unfortunately didnt win any. But hey ho all in a good cause. Thanks Glen and Co for a great night and hope Little Lucy achieves her goal as soon as possible. Well done to her parents and wish them all well in the future.

    Chrissi

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    « Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009 »
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  • Does anyone know how much was raised for Lucy at Amazonia last week. Yes it is late but for some reason after living here for a very long time I am finding it very difficult to sleep at night. However, we all had a great night, well most of us did at Amazonia and hope that Lucy and her family benefited well from the nights activities. However, no one seems to know if it was helpful to them. This is a super bar, with amazing decor and the food was superb. It is a great venue for whatever occasion, even just for a sundowner. But hey please tell us what the outcome was, raffle, auction etc., Surely a lot of money was raised and we need to know how much. Perhaps the family can enlighten us, if not the owner of the bar.

    Chrissi

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    « Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009 »
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  • I have just been informed by a telephone call ( yes even at this time of the morning) that the Amazonia Quiz night was a Lions fundraising night for LUcy. Perhaps therefore a member of the Lions can enlighten us as to how the proceeds are broken down and how much benefited Lucy.

    Offline Edward Bear

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    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #3 on: August 21, 2009 »
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  • Can anyone in authority within the Lions group provide Chrissi with an answer to what is not an unreasonable question ? The longer the delay the more peoples suspicions are aroused.

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    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #4 on: August 21, 2009 »
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  • Due to my work load this year I have taken Lion at large and was unable to attend the quiz night.  Call into Amazonia and ask Glen.  He will have the figures, or contact the lions via the web site http://lionsclub.losgigantes.com/contactus.htm

    jessegaron

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    « Reply #5 on: August 21, 2009 »
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  • The night raised just over 500 euros i am not sure of how this is broken down but i could probably find out by asking Glen at the bar, I was there from 6pm untill 9pm then i had to go and do another gig then i returned to the amazonia around 12pm there were still plenty of people there and everyone said they really enjoyed the evening,

    for some reason there are rumours going around Los Gigantes at the moment saying that I was booked to do a spot there but didnt turn up untill after 12am when it was too late to perform, all I can say to whoever started this rumour is get your facts right before spreading rumours you obviously know nothing about, as i said earlier i was there from 6pm setting all my equipment up, i then did a 45min  spot starting at 8.15pm, before having to leave at 9pm to do another gig in Los Gigantes, I left all my equipment there so that the next entertainer had something to perform on, I f anyone wants to argue with this then just check the next edition of Que Pasa the new paper thats in several languages in there should be pictures and a write up of everything that happend on the night, Oh and by the way I wasn't booked to do a spot there i offered my services free of charge, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, sorry folks Rant now over.............................. 

    freddy

    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #6 on: August 22, 2009 »
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  •  :P   who cares   :P

    Chrissi

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    « Reply #7 on: August 22, 2009 »
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  • Yes Jessegaron did sing for 3/4 of an hour and for free. Pattie Pope then took over and sang for a good hour and half also for free. Lucy and her family are lovely people and several people have asked me how they are doing with the fund raising for her new chair. The Lions do a fantastic job in the local community and a lot of people are keen to know how a particular good cause is doing to reach its target. This site would be really good to let people know about the good causes they work tirelessly to help. I and others just wondered how our support and to what value the Quiz night had achieved. Perhaps other nights could be arranged to help Lucy, as certainly we all had a very good time and hopefully helped out at the same time.

    freddy

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    « Reply #8 on: August 23, 2009 »
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  • """Well done to her parents and wish them all well in the future."""""
      that  was a quote from  chrissi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Now in the  real  world, if her  parents  really cared, do  you  not  think  they  would  have  stayed  in the  UK,  where they  would received  the  best  care and attention possible!  rather  coming to  a foreign  county, where  they don't  speak  the  language don't under  stand  whats  going  on and  most off all have to beg  the local  residents  to  help them, after  being here  2 minutes.
    I think as Iam sure  many  others  do, they should  have  stayed in the  UK, instead  of  burding us,  the residents with  there  problems.
    just my thought  for  the  day,  since  chrissi has  her  say ???

    jessegaron

    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #9 on: August 23, 2009 »
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  • Sorry Freddy i dont know you mate but  i think you are out of order, if you dont want to give to any fund raising events such as this then thats your perogative, but what gives you the right to slate people for coming over here and trying to make a better life for their Daughter, they didnt ask you personally for help and if they did then you could just say no and walk away but dont come on here and try to put people down for asking for help, but for the grace of god go you or I. get on with your own life and leave other people to theirs.
    « Last Edit: August 23, 2009 by jessegaron »

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    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #10 on: August 23, 2009 »
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  • Freddy.

    Advice from doctors was that Lucy would have a far better life in a warmer climate.  Read the full story http://losgigantes.com/news/?p=1103

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    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #11 on: August 23, 2009 »
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  • This affair is somewhat Deja-Vu...

    Aside from any rights or wrongs in bringing a disabled young girl to Tenerife, presumably understanding the difficulties involved in obtaining assistance from the health service, the real issue here is one of "Charity Events" in general.

    When one is organised on behalf of a particular cause, whatever that might be, publicised, pushed and promoted publically, those that attend and support such an event have a right to be told the details of how any money raised at the event is to be distributed, and more importantly, in this case certainly, exactly how much was raised on the night.

    I did a lot of work with the Lions back in the UK for many years.  They are a world-wide find-raising organisation who often take such cases as Lucy under their wing - and good for them.

    However, whilst their local publicity machine seemed to work rather well in promoting this particular event, it does seem to have failed rather badly in providing the answer to a perfectly simple question, how much was raised on the night.

    It would be even more useful if we were told what the target needed was, how close to it the Club is, what future events are being planned and so on.

    With all due respect to all involved, the present silence is doing nothing to help, and understandably raising, undoubtedly unfounded, suspicions.

    So again, when Charity events, or benefit nights are promoted heavily, organisers have a duty to make clear at the outset exactly what or who the event is in aid of, and then publish the results quickly afterwards.  It can't take that long to count up a few hundred Euros - even if it were in one cent coins.


    freddy

    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #12 on: August 23, 2009 »
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  • first Mr Jesse I'm not  your  mate, and second  sorry dolly but my wife is trained in this type of disease, and she informs  me  that  she(Lucy)  would  be better of in the UK, getting  the proper treatment and care.
    There always seems to be some  sort of charity event trying to raise money for some  British ex pat, I'm all for charity etc, we give  every year to cancer research etc and help out local animal charities, but i think this is uncalled for, I'm just voicing my op ion that the family would be better off back in the UK, instead of begging over in tenerife

    ghod

    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #13 on: August 23, 2009 »
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  • Your right Freddy my car engine went on fire so i had to buy a new car i didnt have the cash to buy a new one so went to the bank and got a loan (easy)

    amunette

    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #14 on: August 23, 2009 »
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  • Freddy, didn't your mummy tell you if you cannot say anything nice, sometimes best not to say anything at all.

    How convenient your wife just happens to be trained in this rare disease.

     Your boasts, sorry comments, on your charity donations sound very like a racist claiming they cannot be racist "as I have black friends":

     "I give therefore I cannot possibly be a nasty person who begrudges a child in need a few euros".

    Sorry, your comments and attitude are very obviously coming from a person who has no compassion or someone on the wind-up. I think the latter is more likely to be the truth.

    Chrissi

    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #15 on: August 23, 2009 »
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  • I think maybe you are right Amunette, Freddy is just a wind up merchant but also without thought or compassion for this family, even if he is just winding us all up.
    Has he ever met little Lucy who is living her life as best she can with a dreadful medical condition.
    Has he ever met her lovely hardworking parents who do all they can to give Lucy as good a quality of life that they can.
    They have had years of hospitals and medical advice one of which says that the climate here is best for Lucy. Does Freddy know whether or not they speak spanish??

    In any community in the world everyone needs on occasion's a little help from their friends and neighbours, I know, I Have, and thank goodness that 99 per cent of this community are kind, caring and helpful people.

    Yes of course Freddy is entitled, as we all are to voice our opinions on charity fundraising as a whole. However, and yes this is just my opinion, it is totally unacceptable to attack and question this families personal lifestyle decisions. They have enough to deal with day to day without their decisions being personally criticised publicly and in such a personal way.

    On many levels and through my own personal experiences I have found the Medical profession here in Tenerife, second to none. Lucy couldn't be in better hands. Anyone seen the waiting list in the UK for everyday procedures.

    I feel very sad today that by me asking one simple question this family by either reading this site themselves or being told about it by friends have now had to suffer abuse that they do not deserve. I am so sorry now that I ever raised the subject.

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    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #16 on: August 23, 2009 »
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  • All the more reason for the bar/organisation to have made it well known how the event went by now - two or more weeks after the event. 


    raymond

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    « Reply #17 on: August 23, 2009 »
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  • Hello Everyone, I am an old friend of Glenn?s at the Amazona bar. I have told him about the comments on the website, and as he is not a registered user, he has asked me to reply on his behalf.

    Glenn Says " I am so disappointed with some of the shameful comments shown on this message board about the charity night for Lucy. I and my partner Michele, spent a lot of time to organize this event, with the support of the Lions Club and also the parents of Lucy. We visited many businesses asking for support with raffle prizes, and without exception, everyone was very willing to help, as many of them actually know Lucy personally , as she is a local habitant with her family. The night was well supported with 45 people attending, Jesse Garron and Pat Pope sang free of charge, many thanks to them both. A raffle was held on the night and also 2 prizes were auctioned, also a part of the ticket entrance was paid into the lucy appeal.

    It was a great night for a very good cause, and i am so happy that it was well supported in these difficult times. We raised a total of ?523 for Lucy this night, a fantastic amount considering the current situation. I am advertizing now on Power FM, having sponsered the Alex McCrea show between 3-4pm. On monday, 2 days after the quiz night, I rang Alex live on air, and told him to announce how much we raised and to thank all our sponsors and all the people who came on the night. This he did within 10 minutes. The money was given to Ken from the Lions to be banked on Monday into the account of the Lucy charity. We are also advertising in the new Que Pasa news paper, which the new edition, comes out this week.As we know the owners of the newspaper, they have agreed to include a write up about this event, along with photos and also confirming the amount raised. I do not look at this site very often, hence i am only aware now that people are questioning what was raised. Chrissy, you were here on the night and you have been complimentary as to how the event went. If you wanted to know the amount, all you needed to do was to pop up to see me and I could confirm to you the amount. As to the rather negative comments, I have no comment to make. I hope that brings and end to this rediculous subject which should be discussing what else may we all be able to do to help this very special young girl that deserves all the love in the world."

    <many thanks Raymond

    jessegaron

    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #18 on: August 24, 2009 »
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  • Thanks Raymond, right I think everyone now knows what you all wanted to hear, how much was raised ect lets draw a line under this and move on with our lives, I wont be advertising anymore charity events on this site as too many people look for something wrong in everything you try to do,
    thanks everyone for your positive comments and the negative ones i'll just forget about.

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    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #19 on: August 24, 2009 »
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  • Thank you Raymond and Glen for putting this thing to bed however the comments from the Lions club have been deafening.

    Rosie

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    « Reply #20 on: August 25, 2009 »
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  • Far be it from me to criticise others but when charitable events are set up to raise funds by volunteers, for whatever the cause, whether you agree with it or not it is surely up to the individuals who support that cause to ensure that the money goes to where it was intended. 
    Perhaps if some of the member of this forum did not deliberately set out to cause controversy many more people would perhaps post.  I commend the administrators of this site for their patients, it must cause them severe stress trying to control some of the more deliberately argumentative and aggressive members. No names but from this string it is clear who some of those members are. 
    Thank you losgigantes.com for trying to keep this site positive in difficult times.

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    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #21 on: August 26, 2009 »
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  • Rosie

    I'm not sure I can see where you are coming from.

    The event was publicised on this site (see news pages).  Regular visitors will have seen the forthcoming event, perhaps attended it directly as a result of seeing it publicised here, and then subsequently members asked some genuine questions - and in particular how much did it raise.

    It is far from unreasonable to have expected an answer to that question to be forthcoming on the very board which promoted it and especially considering the very close ties with the site owners and the Lions Club.

    Instead, the lack of an answer caused unfounded (I hope) speculation.

    Maybe the time has come for DD and PM to look seriously at appointing one or two moderators to supervise this board whilst they are busy with their lives and business interests.  Perhaps swifter answers to questions raised here and maybe with a less draconian/commercial attitude taken to some of the posts, especially those that promote the area and services within it, the board may return to a level approaching its former glory, although that may take some time.

    Food for thought perhaps.


    northernboy

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    « Reply #22 on: August 26, 2009 »
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  • Totally agree with you Mr Max, on every aspect of your post

    amunette

    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #23 on: August 26, 2009 »
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  • Yep, 100% agree Mr Max. I think this is the only forum I visit which does not have moderators. On here it would have to be people who have no obvious bias or grudges against other posters, plus someone who is not "in" with the "in" crowd, if you see what I mean, so they can be objective and balanced in their approach to ALL posters.

    By "in" crowd, I will be very honest here and say I mean those with close ties/friendships with the admin, or the admins circle of friends. In recent times posts that do not conform to these peoples agenda have been removed, and that is not fair.

    No disrespect meant, as it would be hard to have negative comments about yourself or personal group of friends/family posted and not be tempted to hit the delete button, but that is not what a site should be about.

    Chrissi

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    « Reply #24 on: August 28, 2009 »
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  • In the village this lunch time and picked up a copy of the free paper quepasa Glen at Amazonia told me about it and mentioned it in his response. There is a very nice little piece on page 30 about the Quiz night in aid of Lucy.held at Amazonia with some nice pictures too. What a nice little paper this is and all the articles are in three languages. Maybe some of you are already familiar with it but I have not seen it before. It says on the front that it is edition 30 000 but perhaps it is the first time in this area.

    amunette

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    « Reply #25 on: September 04, 2009 »
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  • Saw Lucy yesterday(Thursday) and she is still in a normal wheelchair. Is there a waiting list or something for the one people were fundraising for?

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    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #26 on: September 04, 2009 »
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  • It will take many more months of fundraising to raise the amount needed for the special electric wheelchair that Lucy needs.

    Read full story  http://losgigantes.com/news/?p=1103

    freddy

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    « Reply #27 on: September 05, 2009 »
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  • Hi everyone
                   i was  going to drop this  topic, but, its  been brought back up again. so don't blame me ;D
    All i wanted to say ( back in August 23)  but the old  Mrs  said  drop it, so i  did,  but here  is  what  i  wanted to say.
    Chrissi old  dear  chrissi my  old  sweet heart .will quote.
    """On many levels and through my own personal experiences I have found the Medical profession here in Tenerife, second to none. Lucy couldn't be in better hands. Anyone seen the waiting list in the UK for everyday procedures"""""
    So  sweety  what  are  you  telling us, or  what  are  you  telling  everyone  back in the  UK?????????????????????????
    Forget  the  waiting lists, forget waiting  for  that  special  piece of  equipment, that you need. GET ON A PLANE, HEAD FOR TENERIFE, THEN SOUTH WEST FOR LOS GIGANTES. because chrissi sweety  said  it  is  OK  to come  here and  we the local  comunity will chip  in  for  that  spacial equipment  that  you need  and  the  Spanish  NHS will look after  you. Chrissi  said  its OK,  they  will look after  you  because  here in tenerife  they  have  a great NHS, with no waiting lists. Maybe  just  maybe  someone  from the  UK NHS  will see this  and put  on a  special plane  for  everybody  who needs medical help and special needs. chrrisi  says  its  second to none.
    Chrissi sweety the UK NHS  is  in a mess because  of  all the  bloody foreigners coming  into  the  UK  and  taking up  beds  etc  in UK  hospitals  resulting  in  a  very  very  very  poor  service,  SO  SO  SO  here  we go, all the  Brits  coming  here  and  taking up beds  and  taking up  the  excellent  service  the  tenerife  NHS  do,  within 6 months  of this  the  tenerife  NHS  will be in the  same  boat  as  the  UK.
    SO  Chrissi sweety  I  stand  by my  original  words  and  oppion,  even though  you  disagree.
    p.s. how  long  has Lucy's parents payed into  the  socail system here???? simple  question

    The PM

    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #28 on: September 05, 2009 »
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  • What are you on Freddy! What a load of rubbish. When and if you have the character to contact me directly via pm or in person I will consider if I allow you to post again in the mean time, until I know who you are and why you want to waste so much of our time, you have had many posts deleted because of your deliberately antagonistic ranting, so you are banned. I will say that most of our active members have got the message once they have had had the odd post removed.

    For all others and to clear the air as it were, I have had the honour of being a Lions member for 12 years and president twice  and still believe the Lions club organisation to be the best of its type in the world. At present both myself and DollyDiver have taken a lion at large status to allow us to pursue both additional work loads and supporting the Carnival Commission for los Gigantes 2010 as we were both invited to join this year. 
    You may say someone should have done this sooner, hey no one is perfect and I have taken it upon myself to make this public, not that there is anything untoward in any way. And for the record the lions club has an open accounting system were any member of the public may ask with reasonable cause to see the accounts, for our club 100% of the funds raised for charitable causes goes to those causes.
    The Sweet Lucy appeal was started privately, and the Lions club was asked if we would oversee the project to ensure transparency and that all was above board (The Santago del Teide Branch of lions clubs international has a fine record for fund raising for all manner of needy causes) to which the club agreed to (I am sure the Jon Thornley the club Sectary could tell you the exact date). The Club was then asked if we would take on the cause, to which it was agreed (all these matters are fully minuted). The majority of the club members are working full time so occasional there is a delay in responding, to queries sometimes, rightly or wrongly questions have been ignored as the person asking should have know better than to cast dispersions of the honesty of the club as in at least on case in this string the person in question knows most of the members personally and in my opinion was just trying to create controversy where there was non.
    A final note when I was president I raised money for a young Canarian boy who?s family needed a lift in their house, to make life more liveable for him and his family (the state would not provide it for him) so why should it be such a problem to help one young English girl and her family to have a better life? I don?t get the issue at all but that?s why I became a lion and that?s what the lions provide best, help when no one else can or will.

    ghod

    Re: Quiz night for charity at Amazonia
    « Reply #29 on: September 06, 2009 »
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  • Does this mean you are not entitled to voice you opinion on this forum